Björk on nature and technology (2016)

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102 points | by atsy 4 days ago ago

29 comments

  • labrador 2 days ago ago

    Björk and Laurie Anderson are my two favorite artists who have a feel of both nature and technology in harmony, but there's an artist who preceeds both that captures the feeling best for me: Richard Brautigan in the 60's

        All Watched Over By Machines Of Loving Grace
    
        I like to think (and
        the sooner the better!)
        of a cybernetic meadow
        where mammals and computers
        live together in mutually
        programming harmony
        like pure water
        touching clear sky.
    
        I like to think
        (right now, please!)
        of a cybernetic forest
        filled with pines and electronics
        where deer stroll peacefully
        past computers
        as if they were flowers
        with spinning blossoms.
    
        I like to think
        (it has to be!)
        of a cybernetic ecology
        where we are free of our labors
        and joined back to nature,
        returned to our mammal
        brothers and sisters,
        and all watched over
        by machines of loving grace.
    
        https://allpoetry.com/All-Watched-Over-By-Machines-Of-Loving-Grace
    • Rygian 2 days ago ago

      Could the title be perhaps the inspiration for the "Self Models of Loving Grace" presentation by Joscha Bach in last year's CCC?

      https://media.ccc.de/v/38c3-self-models-of-loving-grace

      • labrador 2 days ago ago

        Good find. That's really interesting. I would guess the titles are related.

        I want to also mention that with "Bachlorette" Björk seems to anticipate Large Language Models and wrote a cautionary tale about them:

        “One day I found a big book buried deep in the ground. I opened it, but all the pages were blank. Then, to my surprise, it started writing itself: 'One day, I found a big book buried deep in the ground…’”

        björk : bachelorette https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNJv-Ebi67I

        • entropie 2 days ago ago

          > björk : bachelorette

          I love this song since my teens and never dig into the meaning of it. Its a musical masterpiece even without understanding the text (which I didnt)

      • detreatsie 2 days ago ago

        It was certainly the inspiration for the Adam Curtis mini-series of the same name.

        This presentation sounds interesting. Thanks for the link.

      • arduanika 2 days ago ago

        Yes, that's absolutely the allusion. Brautigan's line is a popular title for stuff, including a widely read post by Dario Amodei two months before the CCC talk you've linked:

        https://www.darioamodei.com/essay/machines-of-loving-grace

        And it's also the title of an Adam Curtis documentary:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Watched_Over_by_Machines_o...

        It's a good line.

    • ics 2 days ago ago

      I was introduced to Richard Brautigan by a chance encounter with The Tokyo-Montana Express from the used book shelf, highly recommend it as well.

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  • ascorbic 2 days ago ago

    Ah, an excuse to share Björk's legendary video about how TVs work! You shouldn't let poets lie to you.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75WFTHpOw8Y

    • realo 2 days ago ago

      "... Millions of little screens that send light on you..."

      How poetic!

    • pier25 2 days ago ago

      for a moment it seems like she's talking about TikTok

    • midnitewarrior 2 days ago ago

      Yes, but did you see the video about her getting shocked from the TV during those takes?

      Björk ELECTROCUTED by her TV - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNgMjfRglUk

      • thinker5555 2 days ago ago

        Just make sure you watch it all the way to the end. Or at least pay attention to the date in the title.

      • quesera 2 days ago ago

        Note that this is not real.

        No Guðmundsdóttirs were harmed in the making of the foregoing video, although I'm sure she would be charming and adorable while sustaining a minor electrical shock.

        • midnitewarrior 2 days ago ago

          When I stumbled upon this months ago I was entirely taken in by it, as every time I see the video with the back of the TV off, I wonder how she didn't get shocked. I had a really good laugh when the video was done.

  • proee 2 days ago ago

    Bjork talking about her torn-apart CRT TV is one of my favorite videos.

    https://youtu.be/75WFTHpOw8Y?si=FnWcYEtpdhsziJ11

    • thr0waway001 2 days ago ago

      The whole time I was thinking: ‘don’t touch Mr. Capacitor.’

    • partomniscient 2 days ago ago

      Definitely an old-school ASMR favorite.

  • dfxm12 2 days ago ago

    The mentioned Stonemilker video was one of the few things to really grab my attention with the Google Daydream VR when it got for free with whatever Pixel it was that came with it.

    At the time, she said of the 360 VR technology that it was a challenge and "it’s still being discovered, but people don’t know what it is."

    Daydream VR would be discontinued 4 years later...

    https://youtu.be/gQEyezu7G20?si=Tu7DirCjq8psKI8x

  • psadri 2 days ago ago

    Nature _is_ technology. It’s far too advanced for us to understand. And perhaps due to not-invented-here syndrome, we tend to try and recreate it (crudely).

    • pier25 2 days ago ago

      We're part of nature too. Is the technology we produce also part of nature?

      • TeMPOraL 2 days ago ago

        It is, but it's a somewhat different point. Or perhaps the same one, taken from the other end.

        I tend to phrase GP's point as: life is nothing but molecular nanotech that we didn't design ourselves, and don't fully understand yet.

  • lupusreal 2 days ago ago

    Love Björk. She always has very refreshing takes.

    • ge96 2 days ago ago

      Aurora Aksnes interesting too

  • partomniscient 2 days ago ago

    Related:

    When Bjork meets Attenborough [0] is a great watch too.

    [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiW6SybyYtU

  • thr0waway001 2 days ago ago

    Kristen Wiig does a killer Björk impression.

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