Claude Is Down

(status.claude.com)

148 points | by cornfieldlabs 3 hours ago ago

124 comments

  • biofox 3 hours ago ago

    Just got kicked out while finalising a presentation I'm about to give in 39 minutes.

    Wish me luck!

    • lmf4lol 2 hours ago ago

      Shouldn't matter right? You used Claude just to accelerate your production not to outsource your thinking. Its still all your ideas and stuff, so dont worry. am i right?

      • phil-martin 2 hours ago ago

        Of course it matters. If you used Claude just to accelerate production, let's say it makes you twice as productive. That means if you budget 30 minutes to do something, if Claude stops working, it means it'll take you 60. Or you just use the 30 and its half as good, not as polished, any number of things. Particularly if you know claude is really good at repetitive tasks, such as making sure all the font are the same size so you leave that until the end so you can focus on content.

        The example are contrived, but still very real.

        • xattt an hour ago ago

          Clearly, this mess would have been avoided by using two Claudes to cut prep time to 15 minutes.

          • wongarsu an hour ago ago

            People with more budget than me give the task of polishing up the powerpoint to an assistant. They don't hire 20 assistants to have the work done 20 times as fast, but that does not negate that having one assistant do it does free up some of their time

            Responsible use of Claude behaves much the same, just within my budget

          • dmd an hour ago ago

            Huang needed to have a baby in 3 months, so,

          • Raed667 an hour ago ago

            why stop there? i hear Boris Cherny has thousands of instances running in parallel, he can do it in milliseconds

            • jgalt212 19 minutes ago ago

              He makes Gary Tan seem thrifty.

        • globular-toast 13 minutes ago ago

          I mean, if you were cutting deadlines this fine, with or without AI, then it was only a matter of time before you're luck ran out.

          > Particularly if you know claude is really good at repetitive tasks, such as making sure all the font are the same size so you leave that until the end so you can focus on content.

          Surely you can come up with a better example than something that's solved by even the most basic tools we've had for decades at this point?

      • api 2 hours ago ago

        Yes it matters regardless of how much thinking you offloaded. Having the tools you’re using vanish would stop anyone. Imagine if your favorite editor or other tools vaporized and you had 30 minutes left.

        If the OP had hours they’d probably be fine.

        My different smug answer is: I bought a laptop with 64G of RAM before the RAM bubble and would try throwing qwen3 or gemma at it.

        • globular-toast 7 minutes ago ago

          I don't need to imagine it, this actually happened to me. OK, it was a bit more than 30 min, but I used Arch Linux back in the day, around '07. Coursework was due the next day and had loads to do. Was looking for a distraction so decided to `pacman -Syu` in the middle of the day. It completely borked my system. Didn't have enough time to fix so chucked in an Ubuntu CD and within an hour I was back with all my favourite tools.

          It's very different when you own your tools rather than renting them.

        • thatsabadlook an hour ago ago

          If my favorite editor disappeared I would literally be fine.

          • Gareth321 27 minutes ago ago

            Because there are many other editors. Perhaps this is a lesson to have backup LLMs ready to plug in.

      • SkyBelow an hour ago ago

        If you completely stop being able to work with without Claude, then I say a deep analysis of the root cause is needed and it may have some uncomfortable findings.

        But for many, they use it as a productivity multiplier. They can still get the job done, just slower. The problem is that the rest of the supply chain likely doesn't care, management deadlines likely don't have 'do without AI' timelines any longer, so if we define the "job" as needing to meet the deadlines and not just complete the task eventually, people will find themselves unable to do their "job" without AI.

        These both can be simplified as "not being able to do your job without AI", but I propose we have little to gain and a decent bit to lose by doing anything that treats these two situations as the same.

      • numpad0 an hour ago ago

        Linus Torvalds might be able to describe some obscure part of Linux Kernel memory management that LLMs might not be able to come up with, but he won't be able to type it out faster than he can have it generated off his explanation

        are your audiences going to be exactly as pleased with just the prompt in the center of the sole slide just as they would with the complete generated slides? probably not

        will they find AI-generated slides sloppy and worthless anyway? I might, but that is not exactly my business. also I know gcc or clang won't accept a prompt as source file(s) yet

      • juusto 2 hours ago ago

        Why stop at Claude? Forget computers, bring the good ol' slider projection machine thingie and do super old school.

        Even better, if cave painting was good enough thousands of years ago it is good enough today.

        • microtonal 2 hours ago ago

          No need to be so dramatic. There are a lot of things you can do with just speaking supported by a whiteboard with markers.

          When I was still teaching, I’d do this sometimes. Just do a lecture with a whiteboard and draw data structures and algorithms. It’s often much more engaging than prepared slides.

          Yes, I know it doesn’t work for every possible presentation, but for many it does.

          • ptero an hour ago ago

            Totally. But today, the room will not be well set up for it, markers may be dry, whiteboard covered in old, settled in diagrams, etc. And half the people dialing in. All solvable, but not in 30 minutes.

            And for larger work presentations the expectation even 30 years ago was not whiteboards; that is very inefficient. It was transparencies. But try printing those in a pinch. And finding a projector.

            That's not to say that a key tool outage should kill a presentation (and if it was important, do it early); but it is not a do-not-care either.

            • clickety_clack 26 minutes ago ago

              How does any tech company or team operate without whiteboards?

            • microtonal 43 minutes ago ago

              It's much easier to anticipate dry markers (keep a small stock) than outage of Claude or Microsoft.

              (Yes, I know that the slippery slope is in jest.)

              • macintux 16 minutes ago ago

                Last time I worked in an office I kept my own private stash of markers exactly for that reason.

        • Merrill 2 hours ago ago

          Or whiteboards and blackboards.

        • thatsabadlook an hour ago ago

          Are people seriously so helpless they can't stand up and talk about what they've been getting paid to do anymore? If so y'all need ai detoxes, you arent even people anymore.

      • SamInTheShell 2 hours ago ago

        Only Claude understands their codebases... so they probably are not thinking anymore.

      • streetfighter64 2 hours ago ago

        Asinine argument. Are you outsourcing your thinking to the compiler because it gives you warnings, instead of getting an error two hours into your punch card programs's runtime?

        People have done this work by hand for years and years, and now when they've been using LLMs to do it 5x faster for a couple of years, suddenly they'd be unable to work the traditional way? Please

        > My car broke down and now I'm late for work

        > Well you shouldn't have outsourced your mobility to a machine

        • latexr 2 hours ago ago

          > People have done this work by hand for years and years, and now when they've been using LLMs to do it 5x faster for a couple of years, suddenly they'd be unable to work the traditional way?

          Yes. Not completely unable all at once, but they certainly get worse at it fast.

          https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langas/article/PIIS2468-1...

          Losing skills due to over-reliance on technology is not a new phenomenon and not exclusive to LLM use, but they of course exacerbate it by so pervasively touching so many areas.

          https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-gps-weakens-m...

        • rglullis 2 hours ago ago

          My compiler does not require billions of dollars of opearational infrastructure to work, except for the electrical grid.

          And even in the case of outage, I can keep my computer running on a battery or a backup generator.

          • origini an hour ago ago

            One claude instance also doesn't need billions of dollars of operational infrastructure to work.

            Its great that you can keep your computer running, 1/3 of my information is ithe cloud (which is not a problem at all, even today) and 100% of my infrastructure is in the cloud.

            Its not a problem at all, that a service has an outage. My laptop also had an outage when the logic board broke. Took 2 days to fix so what

    • nicce 2 hours ago ago

      That is how the future looks like. One outage and we have no idea what to do if AI is not working.

    • _heimdall 42 minutes ago ago

      How'd the presentation go?

    • asimovDev 2 hours ago ago

      I wonder how the presentation is going

    • streetfighter64 2 hours ago ago

      I remember back in the days when Word crashed and I hadn't saved saved the last hour of work. A lesson everybody has to learn some day.

    • fooqux 2 hours ago ago

      And instead of using your time wisely to finish it manually, you're posting about it on HN?

    • antonvs 3 hours ago ago

      Reminds me of the SNL skit of TV newsreaders when the teleprompter goes down. By the end of it they've gone completely primitive and started killing each other.

      • egeozcan 2 hours ago ago

        found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc0FeUMQIA4

        SNL skits have these great ideas every now and then, only if the execution were a bit better, they'd have timeless pieces (like the Monty Python's dirty fork). This one was very funny anyway.

        • dessimus 2 hours ago ago

          One show is produced with edits and retakes if someone flubs a line or breaks, the other is live. Also consider, SNL puts out more content in a single season with 22 episodes at 90 minutes, then all of Monty Python's full run of 45 episodes at 30 minutes. You're comparing apples to oranges.

          • egeozcan an hour ago ago

            Sometimes you look at an orange, and think how convenient it'd be if you could bite it like an apple. Okay, many don't, but few who do came up with all the modern fruits :)

        • disposition2 2 hours ago ago

          Great skit, thanks for sharing.

          WhenI started watching, I was thinking I’ll share this on Teams to joke about the outage…then the third act came, and that it’s definitely nsfw.

        • UqWBcuFx6NV4r 2 hours ago ago

          I ASSURE you that SNL skits have wider appeal than Monty Python, which really just appeals to a specific subset.

          • msephton an hour ago ago

            Maybe to Americans? Not for the ROW

          • oez 2 hours ago ago

            As a non american SNL is 99.9% asinine crap and pales in comparison to Monty Python even after all this time. May be that's why it has a wider appeal but the formulaic lack of humor and fear of actually punching up comes down to the bitter old man in charge.

    • api 2 hours ago ago

      Your intern rage quit.

      We are all bosses now. Until it gets tired of working for us.

  • julesrms an hour ago ago

    This is where putting a provider-agnostic code agent between you and claude can save your bacon.

    I can't speak for how other agents work, but in juggler the conversations are stored in a cross-model format, so if claude runs out of tokens or goes titsup during something urgent, I can just switch models to GPT and carry on without needing to restart the task.

    • jeffrallen 42 minutes ago ago

      Yup.

      exe.dev works the same way.

      Also convenient to continue working when security rules cause the agent to refuse to help you. Today I got Claude to finish something GPT refused to do.

  • micw 2 hours ago ago

    My strategy: diversification. I run deepseek harness (which I made a vs code integration for and extended it a lot with plugins) and integrated it with my codex and claude subscriptions as well as an openrouter account. This way I can switch models and providers during my sessions and does not get blocked on such things.

    Useful for - outages - running out of quota - failing agents e.g. because of "cyber" flaging

    • mark_l_watson an hour ago ago

      Good diversification. I like to have a strong local model like qwen3.8-flash-next available because I live in the mountains and my Internet is not 100% reliable. I don’t get it that companies allow themselves to get locked in on one vendor. Two or more, with local makes more sense.

    • Doohickey-d an hour ago ago

      How long has this been working for you? (Or others).

      Since Anthropic doesn't seem to like subscriptions being used in third party harness, do they actually enforce that nowadays?

    • thefourthchime an hour ago ago

      For coding, I wouldn't use deepseek as a replacement. At least not for anything hard.

      • mark_l_watson an hour ago ago

        Except that DeepSeek Harness is very well done. It is not just the model.

  • revolution88 2 hours ago ago
  • freecodeio 3 hours ago ago

    somewhere down the line, a hook that triggers through an outlook email, didn't trigger today

    • amenghra 2 hours ago ago

      Don't worry, it'll trigger twice tomorrow. Or the day after. And everything will be fine, right?

  • EcommerceFlow 44 minutes ago ago

    Maybe I can help mop the warehouse or something until it’s back (I’m half joking at this point…)

  • mchivelli 3 hours ago ago

    I have a bad bad feeling about the outages happening today

    • NamTaf 2 hours ago ago

      I have a great feeling, it's cruisy as hell without emails! I'm able to get a morning of focus work done without interruption, and then I think it'll be a POETS Day.

      • samizdis 2 hours ago ago

        I've not seen anyone use the term poet's day for many years. My dad used to be a tax accountant for British Rail and said that it was old corporate slang. (Piss off early, tomorrow's Saturday.)

      • w23j 2 hours ago ago

        So you are just waiting for the HN outage now?

    • esskay 3 hours ago ago

      its not that deep

      • polarsanel 2 hours ago ago

        Could be singularity or just Friday 13th

    • pjc50 an hour ago ago

      Remember all those recent stories about "AI is really good at hacking now"?

      Meanwhile SEGA's arcade machines have been offline for days: https://www.techpowerup.com/354714/sega-network-hack-keeps-j... and fanfiction writing site AO3 is down for two weeks so far. Then there's the freezer hacks, one of which impacted the French blood service.

      It's been a long time since I read COMP.RISKS (and indeed it's no longer published) but this feels like an unusually high level of incidents.

    • asimovDev 2 hours ago ago

      good friday gift for europeans who don't work at Microsoft that's for sure

  • yodon an hour ago ago

    > A fix has been deployed for the issue affecting Claude services and we are monitoring for recovery. > Nov 13, 09:58 UTC

  • harry8 3 hours ago ago

    Does every large company have a big server with some h100s and a couple of open weight models for just such an occasion. Especially if you don’t have the luxury of being able to wait or postpone eg under cyber attack?

    • wanderingmind 2 hours ago ago

      Only until NVIDIA starts cryptography verification and block anything not from US closed models, which should be anytime soon

      • mark_l_watson an hour ago ago

        I hope that doesn’t happen. There is a good alternative: if MOE models work for you, then Apple Silicon does a decent job at inference using whatever harnesses you like.

    • sausagefeet 3 hours ago ago

      Just get an OpenRouter or Vercel account. Your option aren't pay Anthropic or buy hardware yourself, there are hundreds of providers out there.

      • lavendermon 2 hours ago ago

        Claude has us locked in right now while they subsidize cheap usage to get us subscribed and dependent on their monthly plans.

        • sausagefeet an hour ago ago

          It depends on what "us" means. I am switched off of Claude almost entirely now except for background things where I want to abuse my subsidized account. Otherwise, OpenRouter + open weight models are my daily drivers. It takes a bunch of work but I'm doing it for roughly a max20 account cost, a bit more, but it's not like the difference is huge. They are less capable but I've modified my workflow to mitigate that as much as possible, and I can still do things when Anthropic goes down.

        • p_l 2 hours ago ago

          As temporary backup, one can use claude models hosted on GCP - my understanding is that those don't depend on platform.claude.com and should be available even if main claude platform is dead

    • polarsanel 2 hours ago ago

      There is an absolute tonne of competition.

  • lousken an hour ago ago

    Future is local, onpremise

  • larodi 3 hours ago ago

    Good thing is at can expect some compensation such as resets. And yeah - diversify your providers, is the same with electricity from utility perspective…

    • polarsanel 3 hours ago ago

      I only have one grid connected where do I get a second?

      • p_l 2 hours ago ago

        I fully agree on the snark, but if anyone seriously considers backup from grid...

        Get an islanding-capable inverter separating your internal power setup from grid, connect it with battery systems - you can control battery charging and have "microgrid UPS" then. Combine it with solar power feeding as second feed into inverter. Scale battery and solar panels as needed. If you have third input, can add three-phase genset (I recommend looking for propane fueled one if you don't want to care about fuel going bad)

        • polarsanel 2 hours ago ago

          I have this pretty much and generating way too much power for our needs which is great. And that includes car charging for light but significant use. I export a lot during peak hours from the battery as there is a lot of surplus.

          But I was snarking on "provider". There are 100s of providers where I live but one grid and you can't use two concurrently.

          My backup in the past has been a local library for internet and laptop power and everything else can wait.

          • jon-wood 20 minutes ago ago

            This is all getting quite silly but really large sites with critical power needs (hospitals, factories, data centres, etc) will sometimes have two independent grid supplies running in from separate substations, preferably going as far back down the chain as possible before hitting a single point of failure. They'll also have UPS and diesel generators able to kick in and keep things running if somehow they entirely lose grid power. Its all totally doable, but as you say for most people going to the local library or a coffee shop is a perfectly fine fallback plan.

      • ben_w 2 hours ago ago

        That's what a UPS and a backup generator were for, even before PV and industrial-scale batteries became a thing.

      • formerly_proven 2 hours ago ago

        Large consumers often have two independent grid feeds.

        • UqWBcuFx6NV4r 2 hours ago ago

          OK. I’m not a large consumer.

          • amenghra 2 hours ago ago

            If you were to setup a GPU cluster in your basement and consume TWs of power, the grid going down would no longer be your problem. It would become their problem! /s

        • pjc50 an hour ago ago

          .. to the same grid. If you're lucky they're to different substations.

          The number of people who had "independent" fiber connections which were routed through the same channel and destroyed by the same backhoe is so high it's a meme among sysadmins.

          • cowlevel 34 minutes ago ago

            The problem with trying to have two grids is that if anyone ever connects them together, now they're one grid with a weak link in it.

            • pjc50 31 minutes ago ago

              See Japan (2) and the US (3).

              DC links are now feasible for these situations, and don't have certain failure properties of AC grids (synchronization/frequency/phase).

              • cowlevel 20 minutes ago ago

                Now they're one grid with a controllable weak link. They might solve the all-or-nothing interconnection problem of AC grids, but they can still cascade failures - and they will, if one goes down and everyone switches to the other.

      • larodi 2 hours ago ago

        Do you disambiguate between failure of the grid and failure of the usine? Like failure of the power generator is not the same as cut wires. And in terms of AI and internet providers - both can be easily diversified.

        Besides, what is it that you guys expect from a large scale provider of essentially experimental technology being tuned live as it goes? Is amazing this all works so good considering the complexity underneath.

  • user43928 3 hours ago ago

    Working fine for me here in Europe.

    • esskay 2 hours ago ago

      it was down in the UK for approx 20 mins but only affected auth

    • rikkem 2 hours ago ago

      Same

  • rfgplk 3 hours ago ago

    Unacceptable. Just started my workday and four projects are now ruined due to modified source files.

    • greggsy 2 hours ago ago

      ‘Unacceptable’ is exactly what I would say to anyone relying on a cloud service that has exactly zero SLA.

      Unless you’re on a negotiated 99.9% contract, you accepted this.

      • nicce 17 minutes ago ago

        They don't even guarantee that the model stays the same without hidden nerfs. The most obvious thing one would demand if paying for their service.

    • nicce 2 hours ago ago

      Where is the version control?

    • egeozcan 3 hours ago ago

      "ruined due to modified source files"?

      • contravariant 2 hours ago ago

        It's one way to describe the way some people write code I suppose.

      • polarsanel 2 hours ago ago

        Taking immutability discipline to new levels!

    • Geof25 an hour ago ago

      Your next question on Claude should be "how do I setup a git server and how to use it"

  • antihero 29 minutes ago ago

    Alice what the fuck

  • AndrewDucker 3 hours ago ago

    Working fine for me.

  • PowerElectronix 3 hours ago ago

    Where is your god now?

  • sedan_baklazhan 3 hours ago ago

    Microsoft+Claude make it a perfect AI day.

    • naich 3 hours ago ago

      I didn't think an over-reliance on AI and firing all the human coders would come back to bite them so quickly.

      • origini an hour ago ago

        How is this biting anyone?

        Its friday, people will just do certain things later.

      • sedan_baklazhan 3 hours ago ago

        I'd guess what we see today is just a demo version of what's coming.

        • nicbou 3 hours ago ago

          I'm more concerned about what's coming when AI works fine. We aren't in the enshittification phase yet.

          • OnlineTux 2 hours ago ago

            I think AI started in the shitty phase, we may need a new term for when it gets worse than it already is.

            > Great catch!

        • antonvs 3 hours ago ago

          A trial run.

    • shusaku 2 hours ago ago

      I got logged out of Claude in the morning, she couldn’t get back in without email. I guess Anthropic can keep their twenty bucks / days in November, for today.

  • FinnKuhn 3 hours ago ago

    It really is Friday the 13th today with outlook and now Claude both being mostly down. I wonder if this is related though. Either way not going to be a great ad for their IPO.

    • fooqux an hour ago ago

      > Either way not going to be a great ad for their IPO.

      Utility customer satisfaction goes up after power outages.

      Obviously there are caveats to that. They must be rare, have decent communication, etc. But the point is that people will take always-on services for granted and be reminded of how much their lives are improved when they suddenly don't have them.

  • makaveli26 2 hours ago ago

    "Software is solved" they said.

    • rvz 2 hours ago ago

      Just need GitHub to stop by and join the outage party.

      • makaveli26 2 hours ago ago

        And Cloudflare too, please God.

        • amenghra 2 hours ago ago

          The two of you are going to jinx it.

  • alpineman 2 hours ago ago

    Will we be able to call in sick in future if Claude is down?

  • fwlr 2 hours ago ago

    The prayers to Yellowstone are working. Give the magma chamber everything you’ve got, we are so close to ending it.

  • dude250711 3 hours ago ago

    Microsoft PM-s overloading Claude with outage solution prompts.

  • krapp 2 hours ago ago

    Oh no. Anyway...

  • sylware 2 hours ago ago

    Hey claude users: is there a way to access claude without being gated by a whatwg cartel web engine?

  • gunalx 3 hours ago ago

    Time to do some downtime aktivities like in xkcd 303.

  • Applejinx 2 hours ago ago

    Is it? Huh

  • Rodmine 2 hours ago ago

    Imagine relying on AI for work and not having backup.

  • gabucino 3 hours ago ago

    oh no wha happand, how terrible, nooo

    • syngrog66 2 hours ago ago

      millions/billions around the world suddenly lose the ability to speelchek