HN reflects what their users (or people trying to influence them) post most. A few years ago it was flooded with crypto, a few years later it will be flooded with something else.
Actually, it always actively suppressed content owners found repetitive or annoying. Openly so, the moderator would even state it is being done. It is simply part of moderation.
And then there is flagging where certain content grts flagged much faster then other.
this website reduces the priority of content, rather than filter it entirely, so some articles with high score will still appear, but lower down than they otherwise would.
This is configurable though, so you can make it whatever you want.
something that makes this website different from the others, is it lets you filter by _any_ combination of topics, and allows you to edit them live and in real time.
"Cursor" and "Copilot" are generic words sadly that you may find in other unrelated contexts, I'd take these out, and "prompt" is regularly used in headlines regarding political news.
I don't want to be the AI-hater guy, but I really like this. It was so much easier to find articles I really wanted to click on. In the first 30 articles I found quite a few, which is unusual for front-page HN these days.
There are no links to the comments, though! That's a bit of a showstopper for me.
I initially read that as "Hacker News will reduce priority for AI driven content" and was wondering why it was announced on a random website instead of this one.
Somewhat absurd imo seeing two of these types of sites being the top posts. But as they say the market speaks. What would be more fascinating imo is to track the average article shift from removal over time.
When people complain about the incessant Claude glazing in posts and comments totally dominating the content of the site - it always gets twisted into “people don’t like AI”
But really we are just sick of the fucking Claude ads. It’s non-stop. Should be illegal how much those fuckers advertise.
Mastodon's UI is horrible. At least for people who never used Xitter. Why did a new company (at a moment of Mastodon initial release) copied already ancient and by then pointless limitations? Character limit, linear feed, tags in text, no advanced formatting etc. And then there are registration problem (where to register), the retention/safety problem (what if a benevolent admin of your instance nuked your account, now what?), the discovery problem etc. I'm permanently baffled at the decision process of Mastodon developers.
Mastodon is just as bad, it suffers from the same problem as most of the Fediverse it inspired, admins of large instances bitchfighting with one another and holding their users hostage...
It's literally not recommended right on the About page, along the lines of "you shouldn't ask for invite right after joining, hang around chat instead". Well, I've checked it. They are talking about Trump something or other. None of those users I know at any level. So what's that "hanging out" entails then? Go invade a chat between acquaintances and randomly rant about Trump? Yeah, that will surely establish a good outlook, lol. And IRC is an extremely unfriendly way of talking to people, for newcomers. How does one even injects himself in a wall of messages between people talking about something live? I've never seriously used IRC because of that and I doubt I will learn that in the future.
This is a system which pretends to be open, but in reality, one needs to dance to some unwritten rules to some unknown users for unclear time. Meh...
I'm open to suggestions. But I'm fairly sure that farming some ephemeral internet points in the unstructured real-time "forum" with a thousand participants in a single linear "topic" moderated with unwritten rules for months or years, all just to maybe get an invite to a yet another slightly better IT forum is the lowest possible priority on the internet for me. I have more quality content to read and watch than there is time. I would check it out if there was some sane registration process, maybe even a convoluted ones, with karma barriers, waitout times and limitations on the sub-forum access for newbies. But IRC? No, thanks. Discord scourge is annoying enough, and that is just worse Discord in every possible aspect.
Basically the hurdle is disproportionately absurd to the reward in this particular case.
Just pretending that AI doesn't exist or doesn't matter is one way to go.
I think we might be getting close to an era where some people section off areas of land or the internet and ban AI and humanoid robots in that area. I know there are a lot of people who want that.
The problem is that AI is getting better and better at impersonating humans.
Eventually you may see a convergence, where the New Luddite Zoos are just more constrained variations of the normal Human Zoos. Enforced by superhuman AI.
Being aware about something is not the same as actively participating in that for work and is also different from doing it for education or entertainment.
Slow but necessary
My interest in HN has decreased since it feels every other news is about AI
However I'll use the other links provided here, as it takes 10s to display
HN reflects what their users (or people trying to influence them) post most. A few years ago it was flooded with crypto, a few years later it will be flooded with something else.
Actually, it always actively suppressed content owners found repetitive or annoying. Openly so, the moderator would even state it is being done. It is simply part of moderation.
And then there is flagging where certain content grts flagged much faster then other.
I like AI and AI news, but can't stand the endless Anslopic Claude ads.
All this site ever talks about is Claude. It's so annoying. We'd use it if it was good (it's not).
As i write this, an article about Claude is 6th from the top on the linked site.
this website reduces the priority of content, rather than filter it entirely, so some articles with high score will still appear, but lower down than they otherwise would.
This is configurable though, so you can make it whatever you want.
see below for a complete demo (view on desktop): https://sprinklz.io/demo/hackerNews
as well as another example I've exported from above with stronger penalty: https://sprinklz.io/public/5vsn97zcgxex
you can also visit the main homepage at https://sprinklz.io if you want to build/save/export arbitrary feeds
something that makes this website different from the others, is it lets you filter by _any_ combination of topics, and allows you to edit them live and in real time.
see (view on desktop)
https://sprinklz.io/demo/hackerNews
for a more detailed example
thanks for the your thoughts, and i will also keep working on making it faster.
If you prefer something closer to the original layout: https://www.unslop.news/
How does it do its filtering?
how does it filter posts?
There's scope for an incredibly cheeky joke about AI here... but I'll hold myself back :)
Not sure what the joke is but I now see that I replied to the wrong comment, thanks
Does this use AI to determine whether content is about AI?
you could look for the substring "AI" in the title and get 95% of the way there.
That would miss a lot of posts.
Here's how mine looks using my method:
https://imgur.com/a/P1qMIok
9 out of 30 posts have been removed.
Steps:
Install uBlock Origin Lite. Then create a custom filter:
Any improvements to above filter are welcome."Cursor" and "Copilot" are generic words sadly that you may find in other unrelated contexts, I'd take these out, and "prompt" is regularly used in headlines regarding political news.
>and "prompt" is regularly used in headlines regarding political news.
Oh no! Anyway...
I agree about the risks but when I search for those words in posts, I don't seem to find much.
For example, here's stories with "prompt" (only look at post titles, not the story text):
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
How else could it possibly be done?
yes.
I don't want to be the AI-hater guy, but I really like this. It was so much easier to find articles I really wanted to click on. In the first 30 articles I found quite a few, which is unusual for front-page HN these days.
There are no links to the comments, though! That's a bit of a showstopper for me.
I previously worked on this, but made substanital improvements to the underlying implementation, and now the filters work much better.
This is also a general purpose tool that you can modify/customize
It's slow
I initially read that as "Hacker News will reduce priority for AI driven content" and was wondering why it was announced on a random website instead of this one.
HN crowd criticize social media for algorithmic feeds. They are proud that HN is more organic.
Now they want exactly that when they don't like what they see?
Is this HN crowd in the room now?
It's understandable, at this point, to be weary of pelicans.
Can you also make one that filters out Rust ads? My interest in HN has decreased significantly since everyone is trying to spread Rust religion.
yes. you can make one that filters arbitrary topics.
here is the demo (best viewed on desktop): https://sprinklz.io/demo/hackerNews
as well as the main site: https://sprinklz.io
where you can build and save arbitrary feeds.
Another one: https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai
Somewhat absurd imo seeing two of these types of sites being the top posts. But as they say the market speaks. What would be more fascinating imo is to track the average article shift from removal over time.
Didn't you post this one enough times already? Kinda spammy
This makes Hacker News usable again. Thank you.
Can you just do reduced priority for Anthropic?
When people complain about the incessant Claude glazing in posts and comments totally dominating the content of the site - it always gets twisted into “people don’t like AI”
But really we are just sick of the fucking Claude ads. It’s non-stop. Should be illegal how much those fuckers advertise.
yes.
https://sprinklz.io/demo/hackerNews
here is a more detailed demo link (best viewed on desktop).
you can also visit the homepage at https://sprinklz.io if you want a more permanent account where you can create and save custom feeds
does it filter on every load?
yes. it is a live updated feed.
Alternatively, go to /newest and vote for what you want to see on the front page.
When people ask for alternatives, I think they mean a different admin/investor behind the scenes too.
Reddit and HN share the same investors.
Unslop.news is still HN content and users.
Lobsters is like invite-only HN - maybe even more insufferable than this place in that regard.
People want something new, not the same corrupt people like Garry Tan and PG all the time.
I'm sick of YC and HN - they are barely technical and invest only in rich kids from other countries.
I personally want something entirely new - new admins.
Maybe check out Mastodon, Matrix, (new) Freenet, etc.
Mastodon's UI is horrible. At least for people who never used Xitter. Why did a new company (at a moment of Mastodon initial release) copied already ancient and by then pointless limitations? Character limit, linear feed, tags in text, no advanced formatting etc. And then there are registration problem (where to register), the retention/safety problem (what if a benevolent admin of your instance nuked your account, now what?), the discovery problem etc. I'm permanently baffled at the decision process of Mastodon developers.
Mastodon is just as bad, it suffers from the same problem as most of the Fediverse it inspired, admins of large instances bitchfighting with one another and holding their users hostage...
Hard disagree with lobste.rs being worse than HN
Top post there right now is by user maurycy (https://lobste.rs/~maurycy)
Also a HN user (https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=maurycy)
Same shit
Current thread:
Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850
https://lobste.rs - get your life back
It's been down for me for a few days now
It's closed to new users.
Not really, you can ask in the chat room for an invitation.
It's literally not recommended right on the About page, along the lines of "you shouldn't ask for invite right after joining, hang around chat instead". Well, I've checked it. They are talking about Trump something or other. None of those users I know at any level. So what's that "hanging out" entails then? Go invade a chat between acquaintances and randomly rant about Trump? Yeah, that will surely establish a good outlook, lol. And IRC is an extremely unfriendly way of talking to people, for newcomers. How does one even injects himself in a wall of messages between people talking about something live? I've never seriously used IRC because of that and I doubt I will learn that in the future.
This is a system which pretends to be open, but in reality, one needs to dance to some unwritten rules to some unknown users for unclear time. Meh...
So what now? That's how you do it in real life too, don't you? Sure, real life isn't exactly IRC, hehe, but you get the point.
I'm open to suggestions. But I'm fairly sure that farming some ephemeral internet points in the unstructured real-time "forum" with a thousand participants in a single linear "topic" moderated with unwritten rules for months or years, all just to maybe get an invite to a yet another slightly better IT forum is the lowest possible priority on the internet for me. I have more quality content to read and watch than there is time. I would check it out if there was some sane registration process, maybe even a convoluted ones, with karma barriers, waitout times and limitations on the sub-forum access for newbies. But IRC? No, thanks. Discord scourge is annoying enough, and that is just worse Discord in every possible aspect.
Basically the hurdle is disproportionately absurd to the reward in this particular case.
That is totally fine and understandable.
Just pretending that AI doesn't exist or doesn't matter is one way to go.
I think we might be getting close to an era where some people section off areas of land or the internet and ban AI and humanoid robots in that area. I know there are a lot of people who want that.
The problem is that AI is getting better and better at impersonating humans.
Eventually you may see a convergence, where the New Luddite Zoos are just more constrained variations of the normal Human Zoos. Enforced by superhuman AI.
> Just pretending that AI doesn't exist or doesn't matter is one way to go.
I don't think thats a common position on this site. It'd be more accurate to say that people want balanced content.
I use AI quite a lot in my work, but a ton of AI content is just thinly-veiled marketing and not particularly interesting, IMO.
Being aware about something is not the same as actively participating in that for work and is also different from doing it for education or entertainment.
> I think we might be getting close to an era where some people section off areas of land or the internet and ban AI and humanoid robots in that area
So basically we'll end up with a version of the amish that are stuck in the early 2000s instead of the 1800s.