I pay a $100 subscription which feels infinite for me, even using only fable... 2 weeks ago I started getting notifications of running out of credit... to me it feels more like 30% than 17%...
Why tech companies never price things according to what they really cost. This new strategy of entering the market at a loss and then cranking up prices is getting old.
You can still find honest companies providing correctly priced services. Purelymail.com handles my email. There are many VPS hostars, cloud storage providers etc with honest pricing.
Nothing is priced according to what they really cost. Things are priced at what the market will bear based on supply and demand. You might as well ask this question for oil, iphones, bitcoin, restaurants, or housing the answer is all the same.
When a new restaurant opens in a college town, there will often be things like an opening day where everyone with a student card gets a free taco or whatever. Cheaper than buying a physical ad at the football stadium, and targets the people that might end up eating there multiple times a week (developers bringing Claude to their companies) rather than a bunch of people just in town for the game (Claude TV ads).
The training data flywheel though was probably as or even more important at least as of whenever it was that they switched it to opt out instead of opt in on subsidized subscriptions.
Right, and while you are getting your free taco you can probably ask for a copy of the menu so you can know if you are able to afford it
One thing is offering free demos or discounted products for a short time and a different one is making your consumers believe that the current price is the long term price.
I just want transparency. Are they done increasing prices?
Anthropic will IPO soon and need to show good numbers. Everything happening in the next weeks/months is about that.
The others are trying to reduce their costs, you have to understand that nobody has a moat, and nobody is profitable. While at the same time the cost of energy and hardware is going up.
It’s not clear how much each token costs and how much it’s being subsidized. It was never meant to last, at some point the music was going to stop and you have to pay full price.
Well, to be fair, you cut the 6 important words that show the context:
> We’re working on exciting changes that will make it feel like you’re getting more from Claude
On the other hand, I think the biggest improvement they could do is allow using Claude Code subscriptions from third party harnesses with no strings attached.
I think the problem is with the word feel. Reducing how much you get while saying it'll feel like you're getting more isn't usually a good thing. It's very weasely wording hoping most people will miss that and think what they said was that they're getting more, not that they'll _feel_ like they're getting more.
Yeah, because it's 17% when compared to the current +50% "promotion" they have going. They're raising base weekly limit by 25%. It's still more than non-promotion usage limits.
Another week, another case of getting jerked around by Anthropic… I’m tired of my $200 subscription changing or threatening to change every 2 weeks or less. Not that I think OpenAI and “resets” is a life I want to live either. I guess we will see if they go through with this or if the backlash stops them, again.
I pay a $100 subscription which feels infinite for me, even using only fable... 2 weeks ago I started getting notifications of running out of credit... to me it feels more like 30% than 17%...
Why tech companies never price things according to what they really cost. This new strategy of entering the market at a loss and then cranking up prices is getting old.
You can still find honest companies providing correctly priced services. Purelymail.com handles my email. There are many VPS hostars, cloud storage providers etc with honest pricing.
To attract users :)
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The question is probably more: How can it be legal to offer a service without specifying exactly what you're getting?
This is not limited to tech companies! Underpricing is a very often applied method to enter/grow/develop a market.
Nothing is priced according to what they really cost. Things are priced at what the market will bear based on supply and demand. You might as well ask this question for oil, iphones, bitcoin, restaurants, or housing the answer is all the same.
I have been paying the same for my Kagi subscription since the start
When a new restaurant opens in a college town, there will often be things like an opening day where everyone with a student card gets a free taco or whatever. Cheaper than buying a physical ad at the football stadium, and targets the people that might end up eating there multiple times a week (developers bringing Claude to their companies) rather than a bunch of people just in town for the game (Claude TV ads).
The training data flywheel though was probably as or even more important at least as of whenever it was that they switched it to opt out instead of opt in on subsidized subscriptions.
Right, and while you are getting your free taco you can probably ask for a copy of the menu so you can know if you are able to afford it
One thing is offering free demos or discounted products for a short time and a different one is making your consumers believe that the current price is the long term price.
I just want transparency. Are they done increasing prices?
Glad that I canceled my sub
What is going on? Why are everyone except OpenAI short on compute?
Even Chinese ultra cheap providers are slowly reducing token plans or increasing prices.
I doubt it’s compute, Anthropic just bought a huge amount of capacity from xAI. I mean SpaceX. No, I mean SpaceXAI.
They’re trying to stop bleeding cash.
That data center was setup wrongly, is broken and unusable for training. Its amazing Musk manages to fool even Anthropic.
Anthropic will IPO soon and need to show good numbers. Everything happening in the next weeks/months is about that.
The others are trying to reduce their costs, you have to understand that nobody has a moat, and nobody is profitable. While at the same time the cost of energy and hardware is going up.
Everyone has been running promotions and, gosh, demand is up.
It’s not clear how much each token costs and how much it’s being subsidized. It was never meant to last, at some point the music was going to stop and you have to pay full price.
Interesting wording:
Well, to be fair, you cut the 6 important words that show the context:
> We’re working on exciting changes that will make it feel like you’re getting more from Claude
On the other hand, I think the biggest improvement they could do is allow using Claude Code subscriptions from third party harnesses with no strings attached.
There's a difference between making you feel and actually improving something. The word choice is definitely suspicious.
AI industry does everything on vibes :)
I think the problem is with the word feel. Reducing how much you get while saying it'll feel like you're getting more isn't usually a good thing. It's very weasely wording hoping most people will miss that and think what they said was that they're getting more, not that they'll _feel_ like they're getting more.
Where did you find the information about 3rd party harnesses?
hes saying he wishes they would do it
Yeah, because it's 17% when compared to the current +50% "promotion" they have going. They're raising base weekly limit by 25%. It's still more than non-promotion usage limits.
Still bullshitting numbers so much that one does not really know what it pays hundreds/month for.
Another week, another case of getting jerked around by Anthropic… I’m tired of my $200 subscription changing or threatening to change every 2 weeks or less. Not that I think OpenAI and “resets” is a life I want to live either. I guess we will see if they go through with this or if the backlash stops them, again.