A society that runs on stimulants is badly broken

(currentaffairs.org)

44 points | by pmg101 10 hours ago ago

19 comments

  • jollyllama 10 hours ago ago

    Hasn't it been that way for at least a few hundred years? I'm surprised the article didn't mention the OG stimulant, tobacco.

    • theokrueger 9 hours ago ago

      coffee houses (previously a threat to the monarchy) would buckle at their knees in front of the dose in caffiene pills or energy drinks

      even tobacco has turned to vaping to deliver more nicotine quicker

    • homer456 8 hours ago ago

      Sometimes I wonder if coffee is responsible for modernity.

      • mapontosevenths 4 hours ago ago

        It literally is. Technologists are all the degenerate intellectual children of Voltaire - who famously drank 40-50 cups of coffee per day.

    • BiraIgnacio 6 hours ago ago

      Perhaps since the beginning of what we came to call society.

      • nitwit005 5 hours ago ago

        Even animals will do things like get drunk on fermented fruit. Humans just figured out how to get a regular supply.

      • hoppp 6 hours ago ago

        The romans had society. No tobacco or coffee

  • throwitaway222 10 hours ago ago

    I was on a prescribed stimulant for 6 months. It was nice for work, but it ended up with too many side effects that kind of mess with ones head. It tends to "simplify" complex decision making processes and not just for code but for life decisions.

    • copperx 9 hours ago ago

      Simplifying decisions can be a positive outcome, just to add balance to your comment.

    • suburban_strike 9 hours ago ago

      > It tends to "simplify" complex decision making processes and not just for code but for life decisions.

      Improving executive function is literally the point of prescription stimulants.

      Rather than endless spirals about whether you should do ___, it just makes everything sound like a great idea to you...for better or for worse.

      Cocaine has the same effect, only amplified.

  • deepc4life 9 hours ago ago

    I don't know how we do it. I am much more clearheaded without coffee or anything of the sorts.

    • RevEng 4 hours ago ago

      There's a fine line, as with alcohol. A single cup of tea might feel refreshing. A monster energy drink is going to feel like a fight or flight response. Some people are also more sensitive than others and some are addicted more really than others.

    • hoppp 6 hours ago ago

      Its an addiction, just like a lot of things.

  • ElijahLynn 7 hours ago ago

    I hypothesize that most of the stimulant use is actually due to poor sleep hygiene and jacked circadian rhythms, because of electricity and lighting on-demand.

    And trauma, of course.

  • card_zero 21 minutes ago ago

    > brutal labor conditions in Thailand, Cambodia, Myanmar, and Indonesia, where more and more workers are turning to amphetamines to “work without stopping.”

    ...

    > All of this adds up to one thing: a form of hyper-capitalist imperialism

    Does this just not happen, then, in communist Vietnam or Laos?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_drugs

  • Barrin92 7 hours ago ago

    I do find the economics / work narrative relatively unconvincing. For one workload in the developed world has fallen by about 40-50% over the last 100 years. Consuming stimulants is as popular among call it the 'lazy bum class' (no offense, I grew up in a deadbeat town) as it is among strivers. Coffee goes back five thousand years, Nicotine as far as recorded history, that is 10k+ years.

    They've always had recreational or even ritual use, and the health fads against stimulants and cleansing crazes usually come from the work-obsessed than anyone else. So I don't think that we run on stimulants, I'm pretty sure we'd do them regardless.