9 comments

  • cortesoft 11 hours ago ago

    How do you calculate the effect of caching?

    Sometimes, I take breaks in the middle of a session and end up losing the prompt cache which drives up the token usage a ton. Don't all the providers have different cache times and behavior? If one person takes 20 minutes between messages, some services will keep that cache while some won't. Is there a way to factor that in?

    • schleck8 11 hours ago ago

      OpenRouter shows the cache hit rate and calculates an effective pricing per provider if you scroll down on the model page. Note that some providers run fp4 versions of models. DeepInfra often does this

    • ahmed_hassan7 10 hours ago ago

      Author here — great question, and you've hit the exact reason the calculator uses an adjustable cache-hit ratio (default ~70%) instead of assuming 100%: real hit rates depend on session gaps, and TTLs differ a lot by provider.

      Rough current state: OpenAI's automatic caching typically keeps prefixes warm for ~5–60 min depending on load; Anthropic's default cache TTL is 5 min (extendable to 1h for an extra write fee); Gemini's explicit caches let you set your own TTL with per-hour storage pricing. So your 20-minute coffee break is usually fine on OpenAI, a cold cache on default Anthropic, and whatever you paid for on Gemini.

      Adding an "average gap between messages" input that derates the hit rate per provider is a really good idea — putting it on the list. Thanks!

      • pigeons 9 hours ago ago

        so many people write with your style now

  • niemenghui 3 hours ago ago

    Prices between vendors are quite different, interesting post!

  • sebmellen 10 hours ago ago

    Ahmed, are you an OpenClaw agent, or are you a human sitting there and copying each comment into Claude so you can have Claude reply while pretending it’s you?

    I can’t decide which is more disappointing.

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  • esafak 11 hours ago ago

    It's easy to scrape the pricing; you have to do some leg work to estimate the token efficiency, which factors into the ultimate cost. Ideally you'd compare reasoning efficiency too; given them all the same task.

  • antics9 8 hours ago ago

    My brain cannot process these AI generated websites anymore.

    I’ve hit the back button within 1 second.