Credit Card Points Are a Transfer from the Broke to the Comfortable

(willisallstead.substack.com)

22 points | by willio58 an hour ago ago

8 comments

  • lyall 19 minutes ago ago

    You hear this argument pretty often, but it's not true.

    Credit card companies do make a lot of money off of interest. But they also make a lot of money off of interchange fees.

    Businesses want wealthy customers because they spend more money, so they're willing to pay a higher interchange fee to access those customers. Higher interchange fees mean card companies can offer better rewards, which in turn attract more wealthy customers to their cards.

    So even if credit card debt was not a thing, it would still be incredibly profitable for card companies to sell access to their rich cardholder clientele, and to in turn provide rewards to those cardholders.

    • pilotneko 9 minutes ago ago

      Businesses raise prices to cover the interchange fee, which impacts lower income consumers disproportionately.

    • B1FF_PSUVM 4 minutes ago ago

      > make a lot of money off of interest

      Looking at the debt numbers (something like 150 billion over 90 days delinquent) that may not even be the case, if you cover unpaid defaults with interest paid.

      The mentioned idea of capping interest at 10% would probably mean credit cards not being issued to a large swath of the population.

  • variety8675 27 minutes ago ago

    Pay in full customers can be profitable through interchange fees alone, so I don't really follow how it is a wealth transfer

  • pixl97 40 minutes ago ago

    Sam Vimes "Boots" Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairnes, in article form.

  • applfanboysbgon 39 minutes ago ago

    It is jarring to read Claude talking like it uses credit cards or feels discomfort over using reward points.

  • SpicyLemonZest 18 minutes ago ago

    I don't disagree with anything the author is saying. But the corollary, which the article doesn't really acknowledge, is that reforms like credit card interest caps and the Credit Card Competition Act would substantially limit consumer access to credit. That's the argument that banks raise every time and why interest rate caps always die in committee.

    If advocates want to team up with Dave Ramsay and say "that's right, credit cards are bad, we want them to be less available", perhaps things could change one day. I'd donate to that cause. If we keep pretending that we could have exactly the same system with lower interest rates, I don't think we'll ever get anywhere.

  • B1FF_PSUVM 22 minutes ago ago

    Bullshit guilt-tripping logic. Just the 150 billion from "interchange" (merchant fees) would be enough reason to fund the 15 billion (estimated) rewards.

    What next, supermarket coupons as a wealth transfer mechanism?