21 comments

  • jbellis 2 hours ago ago

    It tops benchmarks because it uses them in its training data. https://x.com/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919

  • mft_ 2 hours ago ago

    Great to see more competition in this space, and especially from Europe, but... it's a shame when the benchmarks don't include the current best comparable models. They shows results against Qwen 3.5 and Gemma 3, but Qwen 3.6 and Gemma 4 have been available for ~three months.

    • neonstatic an hour ago ago

      I bet it's doing really well against Llama 3 :)

  • skeledrew an hour ago ago

    > the facility runs entirely on renewable energy, is cooled with water from the Eisbach canal, and feeds waste heat into the surrounding Tucherpark neighborhood.

    That's it right there. Show the others how it's done. Can see going forward most model training being done in winter, making for a proper resource recycling ecosystem.

    • chis an hour ago ago

      It's funny, my reaction was the exact opposite. Details like this show that they're fundamentally unserious and focused on the wrong things. Imagine if Germany, when developing their automotive industry, spent all their time focusing on reusing the waste heat from production to heat homes instead of just building great cars. They probably would not have sold many cars!

      • morsch 21 minutes ago ago

        That is funny because Germany did in fact use the process ("waste") heat from steel mills for district heating on a large scale. The steel was then used by the automotive industry, among other things. We're talking 50+ years ago.

      • lejalv 43 minutes ago ago

        Survival! Wrong thing! Stay away! Sell cars, that's what you've got to do, at any price.

        • throw-the-towel 25 minutes ago ago

          But then again, AI is a paperclip maximiser after all...

      • rapind an hour ago ago

        Imagine Canada being on fire due to global warming while you write this comment.

  • beklein 2 hours ago ago
  • frb 21 minutes ago ago

    I wanted to try it today.

    Had to request access on huggingface, which was still not answered after a day.

    Given all the Inkling and Kimi announcements, this atm just feels like too little too late to be taken seriously.

    That said, it’s their first release and I hope they do catch up fast.

  • throwa356262 3 hours ago ago

    I think this news is more about the infrastructure than the model.

    Either way, happy to see two open models from outside the us-cn duopoly in the same week.

  • k__ 2 hours ago ago

    "Fully open source model" with "Long-term, license-free availability for industry"

    Nice trick to be not comparable with most other LLMs on the market, open weight or proprietary.

    But I think, that's the right way.

  • doobiedowner an hour ago ago

    How can we get these things to fight each other for sport? Real battle bots

  • sajithdilshan 2 hours ago ago

    Better late than never. Germans have entered the chat

    • petcat 2 hours ago ago

      More like Nemotron 3 with benchmaxxing enabled has (re-)entered the chat.