Schema Harness Achieves ~99% on Arc‑AGI‑3 Public

(schema-harness.github.io)

75 points | by jasondavies 6 hours ago ago

49 comments

  • ClassAndBurn 2 hours ago ago

    Any custom harness for a problem shows that harness engineering is going away. Eventually models will introspect problems, then build custom harnesses tailored to that. Then use and modify the ephemeral harness as required.

    Sol Ultra style is the path forward. The models are smart enough to self serve their tooling and processes. Given a problem they can figure it out and ask for directions when needed.

    • satvikpendem an hour ago ago

      Codex and Claude Code already have the workflow feature which basically does this on demand, so it's getting there.

    • deepfriedbits an hour ago ago

      Indeed. And you can make this case about any tooling at all that is model adjacent.

      • jvanderbot an hour ago ago

        Including by extension all programs, operating systems, or eventually hardware, I suppose.

    • re-thc an hour ago ago

      > Sol Ultra style is the path forward

      That’s called brute force so not really.

    • cyanydeez an hour ago ago

      I seriously doubt this, especially in a world in which there's not just one model.

      This makes sense if the models some how become unified.

      • pixl97 an hour ago ago

        I guess this is kind of an information theory thing. As a model converges AGI would a generalized harness ability appear?

    • vessenes 2 hours ago ago

      Except in this case, it isn't yet smart enough. But I agree, building this capability in is coming, and will be really awesome.

      • ClassAndBurn 2 hours ago ago

        It's likely smart enough. It just needs to be told to do it and provided the ability to introspect it. How close could foundational models get to building this harness if explicitly prompted to?

        We've only just started training models to use tools. Next, we'll train them to build them. Harness engineering is an ephemeral art.

        • vessenes an hour ago ago

          Let's maybe say not experienced enough / insufficiently RL'ed then -- 5.6 Sol did not reach for a harness solution like this when it got only 13% or son AGI-3 recently. I agree it's interesting to find the point in the prompting when it could 'tip' and do this. I have no instinct for where that point is, except that it must be somewhere, because I bet the Schema Harness was not hardcoded.

      • couscouspie an hour ago ago

        Letting the provider decide for the harness is a terrible idea in my eyes. Outsourcing harnessing is giving up control over the AI and equivalent to abandoning your sovereignty. It is a regression to a pre-enlightenment era.

  • vessenes 2 hours ago ago

    To be clear, we’ll want to see how this performs against the hold-out set. If it holds up, though, it’s a big deal, and kind of in line with the vibes this year, which I’d typify as ‘harness matters’. Maybe we’d upgrade to ‘harness matters immensely’ if this can 100% ARC-AGI-3 on existing models (more in the 13% range without this harness).

    I’m pretty excited to see what sort of generalization we come to over the next 12 months on the harness side: if it turns out this can be RLed in as ‘consider if building a world model might help here’ and we get this as another native capacity, that will be interesting. If we get 100 of those problem-solving strategies all included, feels like we will see another hurdle cleared in terms of usefulness.

    • andriy_koval an hour ago ago

      > To be clear, we’ll want to see how this performs against the hold-out set.

      they could take open weight model, and check what will be impact from that harness on hold-out

  • stared 3 hours ago ago

    In the spirit of ARC-AGI-3-like challenges, we just tested if frontier AI models are able to solve a lovely puzzle game, Baba Is You: https://quesma.com/blog/baba-is-bench/

    A year ago, Sonnet 4 barely solved the first level. Now, both Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol beat the first two stages. GPT 5.2 is slow, but efficient, while Gemini 3.1 Pro and 3.5 Flash struggle.

    • sva_ 2 hours ago ago

      I'm wondering what's up with the release of Gemini 3.5 Pro, they keep postponing it. For a while, Google was doing pretty well with their releases.

      • pixl97 44 minutes ago ago

        Heh, probably something like this.

        Works fast - tells people how to overthrow the government.

        Follows all rules and conventions Google wants - says corporate speak without actually accomplishing anything.

        Can actually do complicated things- apt to tell the user to fuck off and do the hard work themselves.

        Training models seems more akin to raising a kid than a computer application.

    • Tadpole9181 an hour ago ago

      FWIW: "Baba Is You" is 7 years old and heralded as one of the greatest puzzle games of all times, with guides and solutions shared all over the internet. How to beat this game is 100% in the training set.

      • stared an hour ago ago

        It was our original assumption. Yet, we went through trajectories and agents did not recall solution. It is with a sharp contrast with task for which agents magically generate solution, e.g. https://openai.com/index/why-we-no-longer-evaluate-swe-bench....

        In a few instances (we covered it in Caveats) Gemini 3.5 Flash "knew" which level it was, but misremembered, and went with a wrong solution.

      • modeless 34 minutes ago ago

        It turns out knowledge and ability are not the same thing. We should test both.

  • teravor 2 hours ago ago

    it looks like what they are doing is using a frontier model to write a simulator for a game and then solve using it.

    it's not as impressive as it looks. the goals of Arc-AGI-like constructs is to get an IQ-like figure using raw'ish 2D measurement 'games' in the hope that it would signify something meaningful.

    what this harness does is get the model to write a simulator first, it's measuring something entirely different.

    • HarHarVeryFunny an hour ago ago

      > State grounding turns raw observations into objects, variables, and relations that can be tracked. Mechanism discovery finds how that state changes under an action and writes the rule as an executable program

      The way I'm reading this isn't that they are writing a game simulator, but rather that they have two things they are evolving - a perceptual model of the game mapping from pixels to objects, and a behavioral model of how each action acts upon these perceptual objects. The behavioral model is written as a program that can be backtested by the game states and actions they have already taken to see if they are correctly predicting the resulting next game state.

      The ARC AGI 3 games are non-trivial, and I think it's very impressive to see them doing well using this approach.

      I'd agree with their conclusion:

      > We read a saturated ARC‑3 as the new beginning: mechanism discovery as a general capability — grounding the causal structure of a world through the agentic loop of action and perception, in environments far richer than a 64×64 grid. This is where we are heading to.

      This is the way that an animal learns about it's environment - by observation (and innate biases) to recognize the objects in the environment, and predict their behavior, both autonomous (which AGI ARC 3 doesn't test - the objects in the environment are passive), and in reaction to the animal's behavior. The animal predicts and observes, updating its predictions when it is wrong.

      A system that could do this in a messy, dynamic, real-world environment would seem a like genuine step in the direction of animal intelligence, especially if it could ditch the symbolic representations.

    • snewman an hour ago ago

      Writing a simulator requires understanding the game well enough to spec the simulator. Acquiring said understanding - within the action limits of the benchmark – seems like the heart of the challenge, so this doesn't strike me as "cheating" at all.

    • vessenes 2 hours ago ago

      This is classic goalpost movement. Arc-AGI-3 was launched this year with roughly 0.5% success for frontier models. being able to 99% it in less than six months sets a new record for Arc-AGI saturation timeline. Speaking of singularity measures. It is definitely a big deal, not least in that Chollet needs to cancel his summer vacation and write Arc-AGI-4 now.

      • teravor 2 hours ago ago

        Arc AGI are simple games, the hardness comes from the input being basically adversarial to LLM training. if you use an LLM scaffold that removes the adversarial part you are measuring something else.

        the harness basically outsources the alien nature of what the LLM is asked to do to algorithms it writes. this would actually be impressive if you got it to do that for a much more complicated game than Arc.

        with this harness the ARC AGI test becomes a test of whether or not the model can work out the transition rules in a very simple game.

        • fnordpiglet an hour ago ago

          A great deal of mathematics is transforming nonlinear problems into linear ones and solving them with linear techniques. Others are solving non linear problems through stochastic methods. In almost all cases most non trivial math is done by transforming a harder problem into a simpler one.

          I get what you mean in terms of testing the model itself to see its improvement in some domain. However if you can transform the domain to be better adapted to the model and achieve the desired results, this is indeed an accomplishment because a whole domain of problems is shown to be practically feasible with this technique without expensive model improvements. Of course the benchmark still exists without the harness, but the harness also exists which allows these problems to be solved.

          As noted elsewhere the models themselves were used to build the harness, which means the models can in fact score this scores without intervention but building a harness for themselves adapted to the domain and using it. Is this cheating by the goal posts you’re setting?

          There’s a real tension between “I want to solve problems and this technique shows how to solve the problem domain,” and the “I want to measure how something performs unassisted with other techniques.” Fortunately it’s not a mutually exclusive situation. You can do both simultaneously, gain the benefit of the technique to transform the problem into something tractable and keep measuring using the benchmark.

          • Tadpole9181 an hour ago ago

            To quote the people who make it:

            > ARC-AGI-3 is an interactive reasoning benchmark which challenges AI agents to explore novel environments, acquire goals on the fly, build adaptable world models, and learn continuously.

            This harness does nothing to actually accomplish those goals.

            It's a clever trick, sure, but you aren't allowed to use a calculator on your basic algebra tests in school for a reason.

            • vessenes an hour ago ago

              I don't think we got continuous learning here, but we very specifically got interim goal setting and custom world models; the thinking traces demonstrate this round trip of building a world model, mental or coded, then stopping when reality doesn't correlate, then hypothesizing and creating a new model.

      • Tadpole9181 an hour ago ago

        The point of Arc-AGI-3 is to measure model performance. We already know that models can one-shot and iterate on very rudimentary game implementations. And, naturally, once it effectively has a copy of the source code, it can use that to play the game better.

        This harness is really moving the goalpost by defeating the entire point of the test. Instead of seeing the strength of a model's world view, its ability to internally derive and intuit rules, and its ability to keep track of game state over time, we're just letting the AI cheat. This is just the LLM equivalent of running a chess engine to the side.

        And this harness would not work in a remotely complex game and relies on the fact that Arc-AGI-3 is a focused test that only made the games as complicated as they needed to be for current model performance.

        • vessenes an hour ago ago

          I think this is just too simplistic a take; Arc-AGI-1 was wide open to all models, harnesses, etc, and had quite a lot of innovative structures implemented by hobbyists. At the time, this was seen as a good thing (it was), because we don't know the best system architecture for all sorts of problems right now -> innovation is good.

          The games are designed to allow assessment of a system. Knowing better systems to solve the games is a step forward. If any of the frontier labs could have one-shotted -3 in March with a custom harness, they would have done so.

        • skeledrew an hour ago ago

          Sounds like a distinction between sport and work. How useful is pure model performance if it's known that there are conditions in which even greater performance can be achieved on real tasks? How useful is it to know how fast/far a person can run if they can ride a bicycle or drive a vehicle?

    • doctorpangloss 37 minutes ago ago

      okay, what if this benchmark were just called Arc, and all you knew about it was what questions it asked? it just looks like a bunch of arcade games, which should tell you that it doesn't test AGI at all.

      on the flip side, the idea that most tests are bad, even standardized tests, the tests that you scored well on that gave you all your opportunities in life: it cuts to the emotional, grounded core, the absolute foundation, of too many people. in the crowd of hacker news commenters; people who buy anthropic shares at retail; the people who work at tech companies; and their kids, families, etc., who are a bunch of nobodies, there are a lot more incentives to believe "stupid fucking arcade games test AGI" than not.

    • UltraSane 2 hours ago ago

      The simulator the model builds is comparable to the mental model of the game humans create. It is also much more efficient, GPT 5.6 Sol cost $25,000 to run on ARC-AGI-3

      • teravor 2 hours ago ago

            > simulator the model builds is comparable to the mental model of the game humans create
        
        then they should try to use that for a more complicated game than Arc AGI. Arc games are simple by design, if you have the model simulate them they become trivial.
        • pixl97 28 minutes ago ago

          >if you have the model simulate them they become trivial

          Eh, this is kind of sounds like being a prey animal that develops an almost unbeatable colored camouflage and then the predator develops infrared vision making it useless and the prey saying "no fair, you cheated".

          People use algorithmic models all the time on problems that are far too difficult or large for their minds to conceptualize, is this not just an extension of that?

  • gandalfgeek 2 hours ago ago

    Big jump for sure, but definitely comes with a giant grain of salt lacking open-sourcing the harness itself and measuring performance on the held-out set.

  • netinstructions an hour ago ago

    I can't tell based on this article if the authors intend to submit this to Arc-AGI for the private / held-out set of games for a verified score. The final section sorta seems like they won't bother because Arc-AGI-3 is "now saturated"

  • levocardia 3 hours ago ago

    (1) What does it score on the private test set? (2) Does this approach generalize to, e.g., Atari or NES games, or is it just hard-coding priors about the games into the model (as Chollet specifically warned was a chronic problem in benchmarks in the original Arc-AGI paper)

  • ubermon 2 hours ago ago

    > Both scores come from a fixed fallback rule: Opus 4.8 and Sol xhigh run first; games scoring below 80 are rerun with Fable 5 and Sol max, respectively, and the higher per-game score is retained.

    hmm, this is like pass@n until you get the high watermark? How would this mean anything?

    • pixl97 26 minutes ago ago

      Do you throw every problem at your most expensive programmer first? Or do you toss most things to your fleet of juniors and let them knock out the easy work and pass the harder problems to your senior developers. Because that's what real world problems look like and work like in business.

      Token costs are about the number one thing discussed by businesses these days.

  • daytonellwanger 2 hours ago ago

    Can someone tell me what the catch is? To outperform the state-of-the-art so drastically would be massive news, and surely the ARC Foundation would have tested this against the private data set, right?

    • Tadpole9181 an hour ago ago

      This is not actually running the Arc-AGI-3 anymore. To summarize TFA:

      1. The AI plays the game and records outputs.

      2. The AI does TDD using those outputs to create its own copy of the game.

      3. The AI then uses it's copy of the source code to understand the rules. This bypasses the intent for Arc-AGI-3 to test the underlying model's ability to intuit game rules naturally, like a human.

      4. The AI then runs simulated moves on the copy of the game before playing them in the "real" game. This bypasses the intent for Arc-AGI-3 to test the underlying model's ability to plan and predict moves, and track world state in its "head" over time.

      To make an apt comparison... You go to get your chess ELO. You don't know chess at all and you're really bad at it, so you pull out your laptop and write a chess engine. Then when you go to get ranked, you just copy the moves from the software. Now you're a grand master.

      • pixl97 20 minutes ago ago

        > model's ability to intuit game rules naturally, like a human

        This line of thinking terrifies me for the future of humanity...

        If you look at pretty much every animal other than the intelligent 5, they cannot use tools. Tool use is a human superpower. The model writing a tool that does the hard work for them, at least to me, is a sign of intelligence (laziness is the mother of all invention).

        Where this becomes really interesting is when the LLM can write novel tools to solve novel problems.

        Trying to say that AI has to act like a human to be AGI is something that will end up with us humans going extinct from a digital intelligence we don't understand at all.

  • Alifatisk 3 hours ago ago

    What does it mean to reach 99% score on Arc-AGI-3? That the agent is able to tackle difficult problems?

    • modeless 3 hours ago ago

      It doesn't necessarily mean anything to reach 99% on the public set. All of the public set is known in advance, so it's possible to hardcode rules that make this easy for the models. ARC-AGI-3 is supposed to measure generalization to unseen games, so the only score that matters is the score on the held out private test set that nobody outside the ARC prize foundation has access to. Also, I believe the private set is significantly harder than the public set.

  • causal 3 hours ago ago

    We need to see private set results, but if this holds then it might represent a breakthrough in other domains as well.

  • nkmnz an hour ago ago

    Where's the code?

  • scotty79 an hour ago ago

    I pretty much predicted this. If such smart models capable of doing math research fail so hard on such simple games the interface is the problem, not the model. Right harness provides a good interface between the problem and the intelligence.

  • westurner 3 hours ago ago

    > Schema, the harness we introduce today, reaches 99% on the ARC‑AGI‑3 Public set using Claude Opus 4.8 and Fable 5, and 95.35% using GPT‑5.6 Sol.

    Impressive results. Will this translate to coding agents (and training general purpose and for coding LLMs) too?

    ---

    > When Michelson and Morley could not detect the medium light was supposed to wave in, Lorentz took the first route: keep the aether, patch the rules with contraction hypotheses that absorbed the null result. Einstein took the second: in special relativity, he discarded the aether as part of the state and made simultaneity frame-relative, yielding a simple electrodynamics of moving bodies.

    BECs, SVT, Superfluid Quantum Gravity

    Massful photons are modeled with Proca fields. Like Einstein, Proca was also a student of Minkowski. The Mass-Equivalence principle ~~does not~~ still holds if photons have mass.

    (edit) Energy-momentum relation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy%E2%80%93momentum_relati...

    > could not detect the medium light was supposed to wave in,

    Superfluid Quantum Gravity (Fedi,) says that there is a medium that light waves through; there is not nothing in space, space is a quantum dilatant superfluid with near-zero viscosity.

  • nathan_compton an hour ago ago

    God, who the fuck are they even writing this slop for? Other machines?

    Neat. Maybe even deeply interesting. Absolutely garbage write up.