Update on Ocean Observatories Initiative

(nsf.gov)

133 points | by andsoitis a day ago ago

27 comments

  • bnm04 a day ago ago

    On Wednesday, June 17th the Senate passed the Saving the OOI Act with unanimous consent. This bill prohibits dismantling the OOI. The bill had not yet passed the House.

    • 63 a day ago ago

      For those unfamiliar, this implies they would have been able to override a presidential veto, so the administration backtracking is just saving the president the embarassment of a defiant congress/disunified party.

      • tzs 17 hours ago ago

        When Trump vetoed a drinking water project for Colorado that had passed both the House and Senate by unanimous consent they failed to override it. Don’t underestimate how afraid Republicans in Congress are of angering Trump.

        • throw0101a 11 hours ago ago

          > Don’t underestimate how afraid Republicans in Congress are of angering Trump.

          Or his armed insurrectionists^W supporters.

      • daveguy a day ago ago

        If the administration cares about embarrassment, I've got some bad news.

        • tedd4u a day ago ago

          Trump cares about winning, and appearing invincible, a lot. That’s why in close races, he only endorses near the end when he’s sure who’s going to win.

          • Terr_ 21 hours ago ago

            Right, the operative word is less "embarrassment" than "impotence".

            • ornornor 17 hours ago ago

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              • tomhow 15 hours ago ago

                Please don't do this here.

          • emsign 13 hours ago ago

            So many close races, so many near misses.

        • colechristensen a day ago ago

          The administration cares about itself feeling embarrassment.

          What it feels embarrassment about doesn't necessarily have much to do with what a normal healthy adult would feel embarrassment about.

          Think of him like an emotionally damaged child.

  • softwaredoug 21 hours ago ago

    The context behind this is head of OMB Russell Vought thinks impoundments - not paying out congressionally authorized funds - is constitutional. So this seems like a legitimate retreat on one of many impoundment issues. It required real pressure from Congress as they try to harden appropriations against an OMB willing to use almost every tactic to not disburse funds.

    But impoundment issues persist in NASA and other science agencies in particular.

    Still, it’s a hopeful sign that the constitutional system is not broken completely

  • cadamsdotcom a day ago ago

    Widespread worldwide outrage can bring about change.

    This seems to be good news without a catch. Am I missing something?

    • fnordpiglet a day ago ago

      The catch is they’re still the administration.

    • softwaredoug 21 hours ago ago

      The only small catch is that NSF did not acknowledge it was illegally withholding funds Congress authorized for the array. And so who knows what might change in the future.

      Still Congress seemed willing to pressure the administration on the issue and was about to pass a law directly earmarking the project.

    • adonovan 21 hours ago ago

      I agree. This is a most unexpected ray of hope.

    • Johnny_Bonk a day ago ago

      Hahaha I felt the same way, im like now way this is just a clean nice win, im starting to feel .... hopeful??

    • 0ckpuppet 20 hours ago ago

      oh to be young again

    • enraged_camel a day ago ago

      That wasn't what brought this change: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48593357

  • dang 21 hours ago ago

    Related (I think). Have there been others?

    U.S. pulling ocean sensors a 'shock' for Canadian research as El Niño nears - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48560847 - June 2026 (271 comments)

  • arjie a day ago ago

    This is fantastic. Glad to see we’ll be keeping the sensors.

  • ggm a day ago ago

    Would it not make sense for the non US funding to rise matched by an independent commission to manage the data harvesting costs and maintenance?

  • alfienightshift 18 hours ago ago

    That’s such a big movement, keep going

  • jauntywundrkind 21 hours ago ago

    I ran into this lovely cross-survey paper three months ago, and was so thankful: an amazing incredible view of reality, a depth of understanding. It was such a horror to think of ripping up such amazing science!

    Past, present and future of the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation Josep L. Pelegrí

    https://doi.org/10.3989/scimar.05592.109

  • Avicebron a day ago ago

    positive news?

    • GolfPopper 21 hours ago ago

      In the sense that the arsonist who has set the building on fire has been stopped from also lighting a wooden bucket on fire right now, sure, positive news.