Show HN: Garden of Flowers – an archive of pictorial typography before ASCII art

(garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com)

153 points | by california-og 2 days ago ago

26 comments

  • quakeguy a day ago ago

    Very nice, i have a book in my library which you’ll find interesting.

    Jeremy Adler and Ulrich Ernst

    Text als Figur

    https://www.amazon.de/Text-als-Figur-Visuelle-Moderne/dp/352...

    It is full of pictures like you have collected.

    Example:

    https://imgur.com/a/mWL4kSs

    Sadly it seems this book is rather rare.

    • california-og 21 hours ago ago

      Thank you for this! I had come across it by name before but totally forgot about it until you mentioned it again. I'll have to hunt it down, seems like some antique bookshops have it for a reasonable price.

      • quakeguy 15 hours ago ago

        I have found a pdf, it was on the InternetArchive, but got taken down there. AA has it!

  • efitz a day ago ago

    You should look at some Arabic calligraphy- there is a lot of artistic Arabic calligraphy where passages from the Quran, poetry, and other text are written beautifully as art.

    • efitz a day ago ago

      BTW sorry for my rudeness, I find your project very cool and I love calligraphic type projects. I was so excited that I wanted to share something related to you. :-)

      • california-og a day ago ago

        Heh no worries and thanks! I love Arabic/Islamic calligraphy too, but I've had to leave out all calligraphic forms of text art (calligrammes, micrography, carmina figurata, 17th century european calligraphic art, etc..) out of the archive to keep the scope of the project focused and clear. Otherwise it would take me another 8 years :)

        However, there's some arabic letterpress stuff in the archive! https://garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com/?filters=arabic I hope to find more, especially the kufic style, but I haven't found many good sources for that kind of stuff yet.

  • una_usta a day ago ago

    This is awesome! A few months ago I got a tattoo of one of the flowers from https://garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com/?page=LKBGE51F3...

    I’ve been variously told it looks like the sun, a hedgehog, and a lion & I’m kind fond of all those descriptions

  • Aardwolf a day ago ago

    > https://garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com/?page=LKBGE51F3...

    Wow this is awesome, they had box-drawing characters in 1785!

  • BugsJustFindMe a day ago ago

    Hey, this archive you've put together is extremely impressive. How did you find all of these? Literally keyword search on digital collections?

    • california-og a day ago ago

      Thank you! It has taken me a long time. The two main methods:

      1. Text content search with keywords/sentences or people's names. This is the best way, but finding good keywords is hard. 2. Randomly browsing, especially typography trade journals. Internet Archive has all issues of Inland Printer for example. Reading through them I've found many new pictures and keywords to do further searches on.

  • softgrow a day ago ago

    At school studying typing there was a class of 66 all manual typewriters except for the two electrics. If you were good and had some spare time, you were given printed instructions to type particular characters and returns. Sometimes shift into red ink. Do it properly and you got an image. So maybe pre ASCII art?

  • kevinmiller452 a day ago ago

    Love this. The 18th century type specimens are gorgeous and it's amazing you pulled them from old digitized books. Do you have plans to add any interactive features like zoom on the images?

    • california-og a day ago ago

      Thank you! If you click on the images, you get a zoomable, full resolution view.

  • frmfrm a day ago ago

    Absolutely incredible, thank you for making this!

  • frmfrm a day ago ago

    Would love to suggest having a way to get the whole archive and metadata to browse locally or mirror, perhaps via a torrent?

  • mujib77 2 days ago ago

    Unique idea looks good

  • contingencies a day ago ago

    I noticed Asia is severely underrepresented. This is normal in western collections, but there are exceptions. You should find great examples from China, India, Indonesia, Iran (actually Muslim countries in general), Japan, and Vietnam. Some potential leads on works you haven't catalogued: (1) The collection search site for the Dutch 'Wereldmuseum' in Rotterdam, which houses the state collection (they were the first to Japan). (2) The same for Lisbon's Museu do Oriente. (3) International Dunhuang Project, affiliated with the British Library, which has scanned some of the earliest printed works in Asia with a good digital catalogue, some of which have graphic elements. (4) Musee Guimet, Paris. (5) The Print and Graphic Communication Museum in Lyon. (6) The National Technical Museum in Prague (great printing and photography holdings). (7) Asian art auction records. (8) Should you broaden to sculpture, many of the great Buddhist and Hindu carved stone monuments incorporate text with their form elements, though generally not integrally. (9) Chinese folk arts of paper-cut, embroidery (upholstery/cloth/fashion) and new year folk printed door poster art probably have some exceptional examples, as will some cast bronze sculptures such as temple incense burners.

  • arrowassassin a day ago ago

    Nice

  • DonHopkins a day ago ago

    So EBCDIC art?

  • phyzix5761 a day ago ago

    Very cool

  • faddy67 a day ago ago

    damn amazing