5 comments

  • jnwatson a day ago ago

    Back in the elden days, I took a course called "Large Scale Scientific Computing". It was mostly about multiplying large matrices. I didn't think this was going to be remotely applicable to anything commercial.

    Boy was I wrong.

  • cs702 a day ago ago

    A superior alternative to standard Muon and AdamW optimizers for training large models.

    Fantastic work, instantly valuable, immediately usable.

    A big THANK YOU to the authors:

    Jack Zhang, Noah Amsel, Berlin Chen, and Tri Dao

  • ainch a day ago ago

    Tri Dao's lab must have saved countless watts with FlashAttention. Great to see them continuing to open-source massive efficiency gains.

  • spwa4 18 hours ago ago

    Ah ... the temptation of the optimizer. It's such a simple algorithm, it has far more impact on back-propagation calculations than ... the actual backprop calculation, never mind details like model architecture. So tempting to work on it.

    But so very, very, very, very hard to make progress on it. Even at PhD level. Just don't try ...

  • akoboldfrying a day ago ago

    Only read the first section but this sounds really impressive -- up to 50% of up to 17% of training time when using the Muon optimiser, so up to around 7% of basically pure improvement with no downside.