Building from zero after addiction, prison, and a felony

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182 points | by gavinray 3 hours ago ago

74 comments

  • ProllyInfamous an hour ago ago

    Please don't get a motorcycle:

    A good felon buddy of mine has been out now for 4 years. He slowly built a car repair business, with steady clientele, and got his life back on track – including reasonable sobriety and a steady relationship. He and his girl would cruise around often, enjoying their newfound happiness.

    Last week he totaled his Harley and his body (destroyed bike, multiple broken bones). Total reset. He now gets PTSD whenever a Harley revvs by passing... physically cannot work.

    Please don't get a motorcycle.

    • qmr 12 minutes ago ago

      Have you ever been on a motorcycle?

      Closest feeling you can get to flying and a helluva lot cheaper.

      Bike costs are line noise, (cheap!) planes I fly are better part of $200 an hour.

      I get what you're saying though. Barely been on bike since latest baby and wondering if I should just sell them for now.

      As much as I miss riding and wife misses riding with me, if the worst were to happen, yikes.

      • sam1r 3 minutes ago ago

        Thanks for sharing!

        What are your thoughts on Roller Coasters? Hit a good theme park, ride maybe 6 with your eyes closed within a couple of hours.

        I can't help but feel riding one (Roller Coaster) is much more optimal than $200/hr flying a plane, and much safer than a motorcycle, even if you rented vs purchase one.

      • Waterluvian 6 minutes ago ago

        > Closest feeling you can get to flying

        I’d say this is a strong case against getting one for anyone who has struggled with addiction. In my experience a part of the constant battle is a difficult relationship with sources of stimulation.

      • estearum 11 minutes ago ago

        Motorcycles are ridiculously fun but yeah, if you have anything in your life worth preserving or sticking around for, it's statistically a pretty awful decision.

      • ProllyInfamous 10 minutes ago ago

        >Have you ever been on a motorcycle?

        Absolutely. Broken bones, and all.

        ----

        >wondering if I should just sell them for now

        >if the worst were to happen, yikes

        Listen to yourself, Papa.

        ----

        It's a young (dumb) man's game.

      • 05 4 minutes ago ago

        EUC or FPV are closer, FPV is also safer..

    • rileytg 23 minutes ago ago

      I’m sorry if i’m missing something… what does this have to do with his story other than addiction and felony?

      (fwiw i agree regardless, don’t get a motorcycle, lost too many friends to accidents or the following addiction)

      • ProllyInfamous 21 minutes ago ago

        The wrecklessness which brings some people into prison, is what brings them & others lusting towards motorcycle culture, often shortly upon release. Something something something anti-social something.

        I'm just offering real-world advice after witnessing all the broken bones and jerked roadrash upon this tattoo'd convict's broken body. Shouldn't be alive.

        • coldtea 14 minutes ago ago

          Billions of people have a motorcycle globally... Some anecdote from a chronically motorcycle adverse culture (US) doesn't mean a whole mean of transport is invalid...

          • qmr 5 minutes ago ago

            > chronically adverse culture

            That's the thing. On a bike you can do everything right and still lose.

            California is one of the safer places to ride given how many bikes are here and I've still had too many near misses as a trained, experienced, and conservative rider.

            Most people put 1-2k miles a year on their bikes, when I was riding often I put on 2-3k/ month.

          • estearum 9 minutes ago ago

            Most people riding motorcycles globally are not doing so on busy freeways at 60mph+ multiple times per day, surrounded by 2.5 ton vehicles with poor visibility traveling 60mph+

            Putzing around an urban center on a cafe bike is not what it means to "ride a motorcycle" in the US.

      • richardlblair 15 minutes ago ago

        He's just pointing out that after putting so much work into getting their life turned around it can easy be ruined by indulging in high risk behavior.

        It's not bad advice, just unlikely to land. Thrill seekers seek thrills.

    • odiroot 4 minutes ago ago

      Get a motorcycle. Definitely don't get a HD though.

    • jusgu 9 minutes ago ago

      if you do, I’d recommend taking motorcycle safety courses on a regular cadence in order to practice your skills. even if you’re a regular rider it’s great to learn the limits of your bike and do emergency maneuvers in a controlled environment

      there’s lots offered near the bay area (where I’m from) and they don’t cost that much for what you’re getting in return

    • antonvs 13 minutes ago ago

      You could make a similar argument for bicycles.

      Apparently the numbers for bicycles are a bit better, even in adjusted terms, but still. They're very unsafe in general.

      • zozbot234 8 minutes ago ago

        It's a lot easier to ride recklessly on a motorcycle than an ordinary bike. I suppose mopeds/motor scooters (especially electric ones) are the sensible middle-of-the-road option.

    • gavinray 43 minutes ago ago

      That's horrible but also a stark reminder for how quickly life can change for any one of us...

      • ProllyInfamous 24 minutes ago ago

        Neither of us have health insurance (forty-something Americans -- USA! USA! USA!). My helpfulness towards him mostly knowing he has nobody else to help him (ER already stabilized him post-accident, plus another trip for sepsis). Also, I love dogs.

        This has been a very terrible and very real lesson in mortality. Wish we had some basic social safety nets for middle-aged unemployables (e.g. single-payer healthcare).

      • sergiotapia 36 minutes ago ago

        True but a motorcycle is basically 100% given that you will crash and have bad injuries.

        • embedding-shape 16 minutes ago ago

          It's a risky activity, yes, but lets not forget metropolitan areas in other countries are shock filled with motorcycles and most people live their entire life without being involved in any majorly serious accidents.

        • coldtea 12 minutes ago ago

          It's hardly any given. You can just ride properly.

          In other countries they are a huge means of transport.

          • estearum 9 minutes ago ago

            True. If you ride properly, then everyone else on the road is not allowed to hit you by the laws of physics.

        • ProllyInfamous 28 minutes ago ago

          There are old riders and there are bold riders...

          But somehow no old bold riders.

        • windowshopping 28 minutes ago ago

          100% given? Lol

    • hollerith 34 minutes ago ago

      It's only been a week; right?

      • ProllyInfamous 31 minutes ago ago

        Right; he is fucked up. Girl is now gone, having caught charges herself (stabbed him because he refuses most pain killers and is in a lot of pain right now//ashole).

        So sad to see; I am walking his dogs; last time I saw him I said "I am just worried that this will make you spin out, again."

        Definitely helped me continue deciding not to get a motorcycle, myself.

    • jeron 26 minutes ago ago

      as someone who just got back from a nice motorcycle group ride: lol

      • qmr 3 minutes ago ago

        I don't see the appeal of group rides myself. Always seems to be some stupid shit happening.

        Half of the group rides I see are to "honor" or "remember " a rider who died doing something stupid as well.

      • ProllyInfamous 23 minutes ago ago

        Stay safe, young grasshopper.

        You can be the best rider in the world and still have a bad day/week/month/year/life.

        • PenguinCoder 15 minutes ago ago

          Can never predict your future. Enjoy what you will, when you can. I was in a motorcycle accident in 2021, TBI, hospitalized for 3mo, induced coma, and rehab for 9 months after.

          I am back on the horse. It is just a zen and still relaxing time, albeit more anxiety while riding, than before. Thankful I can still ride, and I do.

          • qmr 2 minutes ago ago

            You were in a crash sir.

            I'm glad you're better. Tenacity.

          • ProllyInfamous 7 minutes ago ago

            Safest travels. Glad to hear you humped back on 'er.

        • coldtea 11 minutes ago ago

          And you can be the best car driver and still sway off or have some idiot crash into you head-on or miss a red light...

          • qmr a minute ago ago

            At a minimum you're belted in surrounded by a cage.

            More likely you're belted in your cage and surrounded by airbags.

            Apples to orangutans.

      • antonvs 12 minutes ago ago

        That's a bit like saying "I don't wear a seatbelt when driving a car, but I've never had a problem."

        • coldtea 11 minutes ago ago

          The previous is a bit like saying "My pal got hurt in a car crash, never get a car".

  • lanewinfield an hour ago ago

    Thank you for sharing your story! I wish you continued success and I also hope that one day someone will share with you about how YOUR story helped them do something similar, just like the article did for you.

    Also, Preston Thorpe (who Gavin mentions as inspiration) has an interesting story as well: https://pthorpe92.dev/intro/my-story/

  • vijucat 2 hours ago ago

    I love such stories. Right now, a lot of folks I know are struggling to find jobs, so I read the part about how he got a job the first day he was out of jail with some astonishment and nostalgia for the simpler days, when showing interest was often enough to land the job! Now, hoop number 1, the AI resume filter, is a strange obstacle that one has to jump through first.

    • gavinray 33 minutes ago ago

      The job market is rough. My wife went back to school for audio/sound design, finished the program + got a bunch of certifications.

      She's been trying to get anything, even an unpaid internship, doing sound design, going to local meetups, online conferences, and hasn't had much luck.

      But I told her: it's just a matter of persistence and time. If you're agreeable to be around, passionate about something, and just show up everyday, eventually something is likely to happen.

      • Joel_Mckay 8 minutes ago ago

        Without a portfolio it will be difficult.

        Would recommend joining a local film club, and get a few small projects done. And volunteer with local church events, or regular city music festivals.

        Also, could join the local union intake for the production studios. It will be awful until one gets the base hours completed, but it is a feast or famine kind of work schedule some can tolerate. Fine work if you are still a kid.

        Finding stuff online is usually a fools errand these days mostly due to "AI" data mining operations, or outright cons. Best of luck =3

        • ChrisMarshallNY 6 minutes ago ago

          The key, for me, was to get a computer. Once I had that, the world opened up.

    • zuzululu 40 minutes ago ago

      The answer to AI resume filter is AI, if you are not utilizing it as part of your job application process to magnify your output then you are likely going to get bottlenecked from the supply side of the market.

  • arthurofbabylon an hour ago ago

    “ No part of the prose was machine-generated. You will not find machine-written prose on this blog. I consider it deeply disrespectful.”

    <3

    • khazhoux 24 minutes ago ago

      Writing articles by hand isn’t just smart— it’s important. No shortcuts. No filler. No excuses.

      Key insight: relying on AI for writing assistance helps neither the author nor the audience.

      • antonvs 11 minutes ago ago

        Ironically saying "isn’t just smart— it’s important" (complete with em-dash!) and "No shortcuts. No filler. No excuses." sounds very AI-generated.

        Not saying it is, just pointing out how messed up the world we live in now is.

        But... was it?

        • zappb 7 minutes ago ago

          It reads as clear ironic AI speak.

  • sam1r 6 minutes ago ago

    >>> I cut the article out and put it in a documents folder.

    Had to read this a couple of times, to let it sink in that he is cutting with scissors and placing this paper document in a manilla folder.

  • an_d_rew an hour ago ago

    Thank you for sharing. Stories like yours remind us that there is good in the world, and even if it isn’t everywhere, it is still worth cultivating.

    I’m a software engineer née scientist, but my spouse is a therapist who specializes in addiction. They (and I!) cherish stories like yours because we had seen up-close the struggle that so many people face.

  • qmr 10 minutes ago ago

    Powerful. Thank you for sharing.

    Had to look away to stop from tearing up in Panera a few times at the end.

    Sending this to my sister who has had struggles like this. She recently finished her BS and hopes to be an counselor or therapist after finishing her masters.

  • muragekibicho 12 minutes ago ago

    Extreme mental clarity in "Eventually, she told me that it made more sense for me to quit my job while she worked, so that I could spend all of my free time trying to get another tech job".

    I could've never imagined long-term-thinking like this from a former addict.

  • judah 8 minutes ago ago

    This was really encouraging to read. Appreciate the honesty and vulnerability. Keeo going, keep sober, and I hope your future stays bright.

  • tickerticker an hour ago ago

    Your compassionate and honest story will, I hope, bear much fruit. You write well..very readable and engaging.

  • ChrisMarshallNY an hour ago ago

    Thanks for sharing, Gavin.

    Can relate. Been 45 years, for me. Got my act together at 18, but before that...

  • isamuel an hour ago ago

    I’m curious (as a recovered alcoholic myself) how you got sober.

    • gavinray an hour ago ago

      I'll be honest, a lot of it was my wife. And also hitting my lowest bottom after becoming homeless and penniless.

      So a combination of looking at what I had done to myself + everyone around me and going "what the fuck." and my ever-vigilant wife who knew I had the capacity and desire to get better.

      For me it really took literally losing everything.

    • stringfood 17 minutes ago ago

      the secret is to hate drinking and never drink

      • ChrisMarshallNY 9 minutes ago ago

        That would make sense, wouldn't it?

        "Just say no"?

        Sadly, it doesn't work. If you're an addict, you'll end up manifesting in one way, or many ways. Drugs aren't the only way that it expresses itself.

        I hate alcohol. I always have. The taste makes me sick. The best way to ruin a dessert, is to pour expensive booze on it.

        That didn't stop me from becoming a prize-winning lush, though.

        The thing about addiction, is that it just doesn't make sense. It can't be understood, when looked at, through a rational lens.

        That's a big reason that Recovery is difficult. It's also often badly supported by family members, who don't understand the mechanisms.

        But that's a long story, for other venues. I am happy to read his story, and sincerely wish him luck.

  • madrox 38 minutes ago ago

    Shout to the author. I don't think I've met you, but I'm proud of you. What you've done is not easy. Neither is talking about it.

    I've not had nearly the adversity of the author, but I do know a little bit about what it's like to have an alternative background that makes companies not want to take a chance on you. It motivates you to take advantage of the chances you're given. The first time someone gave me a job, I felt so utterly grateful that I worked twice as hard as most and complained half as much. You could cynically call that exploitation, but I didn't see it that way.

    When I came into a position to make my own hiring calls, I tried paying that forward, and I got some great employees from it. Arguably a couple duds as well, but I never regretted giving the chance.

    Shout out to Hasura as well, btw. I've encountered their leadership team a couple times and everything about them has screamed integrity. It did not surprise me to hear that they are part of this story.

    • gavinray 26 minutes ago ago

        > When I came into a position to make my own hiring calls, I tried paying that forward, and I got some great employees from it. Arguably a couple duds as well, but I never regretting giving the chance.
      
      That is the most impactful thing you could have done, I'm sure you changed several peoples lives
  • himata4113 an hour ago ago

    I feel happiness reading stories like this. You proved to the world that you can become something great even when all the cards are stacked against you. I often feel despair when I think about where our society is heading, but there will always be people like you who are there to push back against all the wrongs in the world and make the best out of it.

    • gavinray 43 minutes ago ago

      I'm glad! It sounds really corny, but someone once told me "The only thing you can choose in life is your attitude."

      Sometimes it felt like I'd never get a break, things wouldn't get better. But I tried to tell myself "Every occurrence in life is a numbers game. Against tiny odds, eventually enough attempts statistically OUGHT to pay off."

      And the alternative is bleak, sort of sulking in this pit of despair without hope for tomorrow.

  • stringfood 35 minutes ago ago

    Congratulations on your sobriety!!

  • TZubiri an hour ago ago

    "AI Use Disclaimer: claude code was used to generate the OpenGraph SVG image.

    No part of the prose was machine-generated. You will not find machine-written prose on this blog. I consider it deeply disrespectful."

    I really like this disclaimer, by disclaiming that a single small thing was done with AI, you make very credible and notable that you did not use LLMs for the important parts.

  • gedy an hour ago ago

    Good on him and shout out for Hasura as well, probably the most pleasant dev experience I had in past 10 years. It was so good, the startup I was at dropped it because CTO got scared that there was no work for the backend devs, ha.

  • Nuzzerino an hour ago ago

    That’s cool. Unfortunately, today, sobriety doesn’t guarantee that AI companies won’t kill off what’s left of your career (which somewhat weakens the incentives to do so). But congrats!

    • gavinray an hour ago ago

        > sobriety doesn’t guarantee that AI companies won’t kill off what’s left of your career
      
      You're being downvoted, but I'd be lying if I said I don't see that as a distinct (and logical) possibility.

      The ironic thing is, I work for one of those "AI Companies" ;^)

      Claude Code and Codex have done most of my work for the last year, and with the pace of AI improvement, I'm not sure that you'd need (or even want) me in the mix.

      From a business perspective, it makes a lot of financial sense, too.

      I'm sure it's a limited amount of time before I'm dead weight, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it, and I'll figure something out if/when it happens =)

      • Nuzzerino an hour ago ago

        My lived experience doesn’t care what the downvotes say (many here are privileged, after all), and it is only a matter of time imo unless something is done about the industry to change course.

        • himata4113 an hour ago ago

          I see karma as form of a currency to afford getting downvoted. I actually don't mind the downvotes especially when it's followed by a comment on why. Helps me see parts I've missed.

          • tux3 36 minutes ago ago

            I wouldn't internalize that idea too much. In a lot of countries traffic fines are a fixed amount, so some people feel like they don't have to respect traffic rules since they can afford to just pay the fine.

            It's one way to process the negative feeling of being fined. But it doesn't really make the roads safer.

            • himata4113 10 minutes ago ago

              Goes both ways, if you're afraid of getting downvoted you might never find out that people actually agree with you, same goes with traffic tickets sometimes they don't make sense especially related to parking in crowded cities and ebikes, as long as you're not an asshole about it it's fine.

    • irishcoffee an hour ago ago

      Have an upvote. Sobriety is an expectation. I will say though that people I’ve known who went through the journey are some of the smarter people I’ve met. Not all of them, but the whole numbing yourself because your brain can’t quite understand all the thoughts it has, that’s a real thing. Probably sounds insane, but it’s real.