33 comments

  • andai 6 hours ago ago

    Electrobun repo: https://github.com/blackboardsh/electrobun

    > Electrobun aims to be a complete solution-in-a-box for building, updating, and shipping ultra fast, tiny, and cross-platform desktop applications written in Typescript. Under the hood it uses bun to execute the main process and to bundle webview typescript, and has native bindings written in Objc, C++, and several core parts written in zig.

  • consumer451 6 hours ago ago

    I have to say, this whole saga is extremely interesting. Not just from a popcorn-enjoyer's point of view, but as a bit of a bell weather for 2026 software dev.

    • giancarlostoro 4 hours ago ago

      What's funnier to me is none of them seem to want to abandon npm which keeps getting exploited and hacked. NPM has been the source of just how many industry wide hacks? Three major ones, and a massive supply-chain industry wide campaign against npm. But yeah, bun is the real concern here.

      I think we need to smell the coffee and review npm and scrutinize it because it is getting dangerously out of hand.

    • christophilus 6 hours ago ago

      Time will tell. I predict this is just the same 20 year pattern of: people on the internet are irate about $latest_thing, and everyone will move on to some other hot topic.

    • Cpoll 4 hours ago ago

      Trivia: The term is "bellwether," i.e. a wether (castrated sheep) wearing a bell, used to guide the flock.

    • MuffinFlavored 25 minutes ago ago

      I wonder how many "behind the curve/not super modern" corporations were using Bun or Deno to begin with.

      Part of me thinks it's a mild overreaction. It's not like people audit every line of kernel/driver/BIOS/EFI code before running Linux? As long as the tests pass and the performance doesn't regress and it's secure... why are people so mad that it was vibe coded? Is it because it was an irresponsible thing to do? Maybe?

      I don't know, I see both sides.

    • ibejoeb 5 hours ago ago

      People are going to be using a lot less software if the selection criteria include not being no agents.

  • qsera 6 hours ago ago

    I think it makes sense to stay away from large code bases built using LLMs until it is proven that it is possible to also maintain such code bases using LLMs or using reasonable human effort.

    • contextcost 6 hours ago ago

      I have an idea on how to tell if a codebase is rotting under AI Agent maintenance. We can collect and analyze how the coding agent reads code during programming tasks, and see if the code access and token consumption are steadily increasing for similar development tasks. If the code readability doesn't degrade for the agent, the maintainability of the codebase should be fine.

    • Zakis1 6 hours ago ago

      It's alarming how people instantly jump to conclusions that Bun is now "AI slop".

      Bun has been almost entirely worked on by LLM's for ~6 months now, long before the Rust re-write (source: https://x.com/jarredsumner/status/2054525268296118363). It already has been proven that LLM's can maintain such codebases.

  • bobajeff 6 hours ago ago

    This is my first time hearing about Electrobun it sounds like it could be a good alternative to electron. Their site mention CEF bundling as an option has anyone tried this?

  • mentalgear 6 hours ago ago

    While I'm certainly sceptical of pure LLM (re)-written software, I would have to assume in the case of the cyberattack vector that Anthropic used their new Mythos model to adequately test against.

    Maybe someone has more info of them mentioning that.

    • InsideOutSanta 5 hours ago ago

      I wouldn't be surprised if the kinds of security issues LLMs tend to create are the exact types of security issues LLMs are bad ar detecting.

    • skeeter2020 4 hours ago ago

      so they are defending the LLM-generated code using another one of their LLMs, against attacks from yet other LLMs? So regardless of the outcome and impact on us, they win?

    • impulser_ 6 hours ago ago

      Jarred said this had nothing to do with Mythos or Anthropic.

  • ksec 2 hours ago ago

    At this point I am wondering if anyone will be forking the Zig Bun to something else.

  • Squarex an hour ago ago

    They should probably change the name then.

  • krzyk 5 hours ago ago

    That name is quite near the infamous Electron, is it similar?

  • avinassh 5 hours ago ago

    TIL electrobun. How does it compare against electron?

  • throwatdem12311 6 hours ago ago

    It’s really only a matter of time until someone forks the Zig version of Bun.

    What a slap in the face to all the Zig developers that spent their time, effort and probably even some money contributing to it.

    • jdw64 6 hours ago ago

      Realistically speaking, when Anthropic acquired Bun, they naturally would have needed a narrative showcasing that their AI excels even at relatively new languages like Zig. But since the Zig camp explicitly declared an anti-AI stance, it makes perfect sense why things played out this way. It's a understandable business realit

    • u_fucking_dork 6 hours ago ago

      Chill dog, it’s a programming language not a religion

  • chuckadams 5 hours ago ago

    I'm not joining the chorus condemning Bun for the vibe-rewrite, and I think it's fascinating whether it turns out to be a complete trainwreck or not. But FFS, it should have been a separate repo.

    • tln 5 hours ago ago

      What? Why? Git has branches...

  • pessimizer 4 hours ago ago

    This whole thing of shunning bun is a goofy protest against AI in general by a bunch of programmers about to transition from vastly overpaid to mostly unemployed, sometimes thinly disguised as quality concerns and piggybacking a little bit on the anti-"rewrite it in rust" train.

    Still, I can't help but entirely support it. I don't want hard dependencies on gigantic megacorps, or on any single provider who can go rogue. Should have always been able to switch between them, and any of them who made that difficult should have been the ones to be shunned. Completely dropping support for bun is equally bad imo, because now your choices are limited to Microsoft and deno, making deno close to a single point of failure.

    Although I have to wonder what would happen if Anthropic threw a couple of bucks at electrobun (lol, not really.)

    • wiseowise 4 hours ago ago

      > This whole thing of shunning bun is a goofy protest against AI in general by a bunch of programmers about to transition from vastly overpaid to mostly unemployed, sometimes thinly disguised as quality concerns and piggybacking a little bit on the anti-"rewrite it in rust" train.

      It is interesting how you find millions of people put on the street “goofy”, all while concentrating wealth in the hands of a couple of hyperscalers.

  • insane_dreamer 4 hours ago ago

    This makes a lot of sense.

    For example, we (and many others) depend heavily on numpy. It's been around for decades and heavily battle tested. If someone came out with a new version of numpy vibe-code rewritten in a week, with assurances that "all tests pass", do you think we would adopt it? Absolutely not. We would have no confidence that there aren't some latent bugs or that we can fully trust the results.

    It has nothing to do with AI having rewritten it, it has to do with being battle tested over time. If a team of humans had rewritten it in a week, I wouldn't trust or use it either.

    • sigmar 3 hours ago ago

      >it has to do with being battle tested over time. If a team of humans had rewritten it in a week, I wouldn't trust or use it either.

      "it was made in a week" gets repeated a lot on HN, but the PR wasn't a release. They've been working on the rust rewrite for more than a month and it hasn't shipped.

  • feverzsj 5 hours ago ago

    I doubt any sane human will continue using Bun.

    • chuckadams 5 hours ago ago

      In this industry, that leaves most of us.

  • 3as-123 6 hours ago ago

    Great, the author speaks out what everyone thinks but cannot say, either due to being invested in the hype or due to effectively having a gag order from their employers:

    https://xcancel.com/YoavCodes/status/2058170216408813583#m

    The bun rewrite was Anthropic's Vietnam and the open source community needs to react and and build resistance.

    • asdfsa32 5 hours ago ago

      In many a brand name company now tokenmaxxing is the name of the game; CryptoBase, FacePaper, AntiqueOptics, tinyflacid, they all use AI usage metrics as part of their perf review these days.