Palantir to be granted "unlimited access" to UK NHS patient data

(digitalhealth.net)

81 points | by ck2 14 hours ago ago

15 comments

  • repelsteeltje 13 hours ago ago

    > While broad access was originally intended only for NHSE employees with security clearance, the FT reported that the briefing noted that external workers had requested the same permissions “as it is too inconvenient to apply for all of the necessary individual CDAs”.

    Let's get rid of those pesky ACLs. Trust us, we know what we're doing.

  • slartybartfast6 12 hours ago ago
    • wslh 11 hours ago ago

      I would say that this requires "opt in" more than "opt out".

      • slartybartfast6 39 minutes ago ago

        Before this decision, I supported "opt-out" as I believe the benefits of that to our community outweighed the cost. I agree now the balance has shifted.

  • ionwake 12 hours ago ago

    Weird story.

    A few years ago, some UK doctors were warning civilians to request to their Doctor to "NOT be included in shareable data" for this reason.

    That in itself was weird. Why would I have to ask for this?

    So I did, only for the doctor - a normal english doctor in a nice place, to turn to me and say " I can, but you are either 'on the team' or you are not "

    I was confused and I just went " I just rather my health data wasnt shared ".

    The point isnt that at one point it was possible to request this, or that doctors "leaked that you could", or that finally Palantir finally got access - my point is, if you think about it, some random Doctor thought it was politically incorrect for me to request privacy from possible future sharing of private patient data with corporate interests. I cant think of any possible benefit or reason he could have had other than some authority, perhaps a gov department, or news article somehow conveyed that it was "good".

    If most of the upper middle class think like this is, well then we shouldn't be surprised it got shared with Palantir.

    In my later years I just think, it is weird how different people are. So no I dont think this is just idiocy or naughtiness, most people are just rather perhaps ignorant. As always though I dont know, you tell me.

  • t0mpr1c3 13 hours ago ago

    Nothing to see here. Internal controls are working as they should. Everything is fine.

  • brokenmachine 9 hours ago ago

    Nothing to see here. Move along citizen, before I look into your file.

  • stuaxo 10 hours ago ago

    A cynic would put this together with the plan to close all the NHSs source code: since the public wouldn't like further Palentir integration + be able to see it happening.

  • bobsoap 12 hours ago ago

    This is why blind trust in any kind of entity governing your most sensitive data is misplaced. Laws and policy can be changed. Your identity cannot.

  • lschueller 10 hours ago ago

    I'm wondering how this works in accordance to gdpr, whichh has explicit guidelines for how to process healthcare related data. This seems conflicting in different ways.

  • Traubenfuchs 11 hours ago ago

    This is high treason.

    • penguin_booze 2 hours ago ago

      Not at all! Sharing data with US (a trusted ally, with whom the UK has a 'special relationship' [0]) company, run by an angelic, Ubermensch billionaire can only be good.

      [0] Haters call this relationship 'being their bitch', but don't listen to them.

  • solumunus 12 hours ago ago

    I’m just totally black pilled on politics at this point. There’s just no hope.

    • hackable_sand 9 hours ago ago

      You haven't completed the chain of reasoning that brought you this far.

  • trolleski 12 hours ago ago

    UK is done. :(