What made Google Graveyard interesting was they were often successful or extremely popular products (and the list was well done).
Since then people have been posting Graveyards to show most businesses and products are never successful in the first place , but with a category filter to make it appear unique.
Just thinking about how this could be useful and it could serve as an interesting counter example. So if you have an idea and you find it on this graveyard, it's probably something not to do or it might be worth thinking on a little longer before proceeding.
Are we talking about the app at reclaim.ai ? It calls itself the "#1 AI calendar app for work." Like many of these tools, it may be AI in hype only, but I'm not sure exactly where we'd draw the line otherwise.
There's several listed as "domain lapsed" when really they've been acquired. CentML for example is listed as "domain lapsed" when it was acquired by Nvidia back in June.
When a company is acquired, sometimes the company's products get a new lease on life, and sometimes the company's products are killed, or allowed to die.
Some of these acquired products aren't dead or even in maintenance mode though, they're still running. So it doesn't really make sense to include them in a graveyard, among the other very much alive projects like Streamlit and LangFuse, or missing dead projects like Sora.
This is just slop. I wouldn't give this too much attention.
Really wish there was a link to the site they tried for every "dead" site, if only to see the goodbye notice that pages put up. Sites like "Our Incredible Journey" [1] really highlight just what happens to so many of these companies, but an unreachable domain is definitely not a main criteria to base a graveyard off of.
Weights & Biases goes way back to 2017, before deep learning was called "AI". It's used for all sorts of non-AI ML too. It may be used for lots of AI but it sees a ton of non-AI use too. It's definitely not my thing (I prefer MLFlow) but lots of people love it.
it's because this is just unverified slop that i doubt was thrown together by a human. Langfuse has ongoing conferences and is still used by many frameworks.
Oh man, lots of dead ideas. Atm attention is more important than ever, cos delivering on ideas got easier. Getting the attention your product needs got harder
Did delivering quality really get easier? I'm certainly not seeing it in the software I use. Delivering scale doesn't mean the mission was executed well.
Judging from everyone I know, it will take people a lot of time to learn and accept a lesson from decades ago(one from before some of us were even born and I'm in my mid 30's): lines of code is a shit metric. Sloppers tend to believe that something seemingly working = production ready = good execution. And the metric, of course, is lines of code or "tokens". Until then, the list on this website will keep growing exponentially.
> I always suspect there's redundant nonsense in any code module I haven't myself inspected.
I don't think this is arrogance in the sense that it's probably correct. It is however pretty easy to take that line of thinking into an arrogant attitude though, which is the real issue.
Seniors are no different and that infuriates me even more. The few times I felt lazy and let an AI do a simple function for me, all hell broke loose. I'm starting to think that many people were never that senior to begin with: Writing the code accounts for very little of what development requires and is often the easy part. Understanding the problem and finding the sweet spot/optimal compromise, edge cases and how you can break it is what has always been difficult. Seeing github explode with slop and github(microsoft/openai) themselves push even harder should be a wake up call for anyone that understands what development is: not writing the code but having someone else go through it, analyze it, understand the problem you are trying to solve and why you made the decisions that you made - that pretty much always takes a lot more time than writing the actual code. And then I see someone push 20 commits in a day, each being 5000 lines, jam packed with emojis and other slop and tell me that they carefully reviewed all of them? Yeah, that's bullshit, mate.
I once worked at a fairly large corp that considered itself tech-forward (it was a retail ecommerce company), and at one point they just decided to demote all engineers one level because they somehow finally realized that everyone they had been calling "Senior" were definitely not at that level.
Just like how more RAM and compute in the cloud made us worse engineers (no need to turn your brain on to tune performance).
When the brain is off for one thing, it's off for the rest as well. There is a lot of talk about "we don't have to think about code so we can think of ideas", but that's not how it works. We just don't think.
They should put microphones in the cloud servers so you can hear the fans spin up when you run a program. It's a bit more impactful than a silent CPU usage graph.
> Microsoft's Bing search engine with AI-enhanced features The product has since been folded into Microsoft; visitors to the original URL are now redirected to copilot.microsoft.com.
What? Besides the fact that Bing was always a MSFT product, the LLM assisted search feature on Bing is still separate [0] from copilot.microsoft.com. At most it was a rename, though Copilot on the MSFT side is different from the one on Bing, is different from the one relying on your local TPU, is different from the one on Github... Great branding.
Even if the content was unreviewed LLM slop, I'd be hard pressed to find a model that outputs that Bing was bought by MSFT when at no point were the two separate.
Also, missing some of the greatest failures like Bard, Dia Browser, Sora, etc.
Im shutting down my product without shipping due to liability and way too wild product unreliability (expecting AI to make a call reliability is no good). I basically vibed up a personal medical record, so I may open source it at some point.
e: Apologies, I had this confused for the other "dead tech projects" website posted recently that was similarly full of false information: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47945955
To rephrase it: Please stop posting slop websites full of incorrect information.
It's like an invention that allowed anyone anywhere to sell chicken mcnuggets with no startup costs. Too many people love it, try stopping it. We automated listicles etc. and now we're going to be drowning in them.
A lot of these were just company projects on their own subdomain being folded into the main company. I don't know if I'd consider that "dead" or "acquired", just restructured?
I recently tried to sign up for a new domain with a .ai namespace. I tried around 50 names. All of them were not only taken, but seemingly have a landing page with varying degrees of functionality described.
Try it - type a word into your browser with .ai and you’ll see
The fact that some of the domains lapsed is wild, bit.ai has got to worth a bit. But I also checked a handful of the lapsed domains, they aren't lapsed, eg airfront.ai is still active
Just came here to say that https://meat-gpt.sonnet.io/ is still up and running, largely thanks to the hundreds of LLM based bots hallucinating product reviews for it.
I also, thanks to meat gpt, met a guy who sold his startup and pivoted to making beef jerky which sometimes he sells from under his coat pretending it’s drugs.
MeatGPT might’ve lost a competition to a site with perfectly rendered 3d sandwiches, but I’m not bitter, I’m umami.
I am seeing an increase in stories upvoted here that contain multiple obvious errors or lack of basic fact checking. AI to blame or we are all vote happy for stories that float our boat in some way?
We will be seeing more on this list and others very soon.
Most of these AI wrappers shouldn't be businesses and most of them are scams.
When OpenAI and Anthropic's TAM is any software business or anything that runs on a digital screen, the margins for every software business trends to 0.
What I don't understand is how half the comments are calling out how bad the content is, yet it's somehow 4th on the frontpage?
It looks like generic AI slop, the site doesn't even render the headings for their SEO spam "Curated AI Tool Collections by Use Case" section properly and they're half cut off. The images all have the very distinct generic AI hue to them without any attempt of bringing it into a specific style or brand.
Who is upvoting this stuff? Do people not care? Is it just bots gaming the system? Am I an old man shouting at a cloud?
What made Google Graveyard interesting was they were often successful or extremely popular products (and the list was well done).
Since then people have been posting Graveyards to show most businesses and products are never successful in the first place , but with a category filter to make it appear unique.
and then people get bored and stop updating them, soon we'll need a graveyard-graveyard to showcase all the failed graveyard projects.
Just thinking about how this could be useful and it could serve as an interesting counter example. So if you have an idea and you find it on this graveyard, it's probably something not to do or it might be worth thinking on a little longer before proceeding.
Langfuse, W&B, streamlit and reclaim are far from dead. This list doesn't make much sense
It's counting acquisitions as "death". Not a useful list as is.
Yes, I just booked a meeting using Reclaim. And, is it really “AI”? It’s a rules-based scheduling app.
Are we talking about the app at reclaim.ai ? It calls itself the "#1 AI calendar app for work." Like many of these tools, it may be AI in hype only, but I'm not sure exactly where we'd draw the line otherwise.
Presumably someone claimed it as ”AI” by listing it on the registry.
"AI" is right in the name
There's several listed as "domain lapsed" when really they've been acquired. CentML for example is listed as "domain lapsed" when it was acquired by Nvidia back in June.
As of two months ago, Streamlit has 1M+ MAD. It's still growing.
It's missing some of the most famous AI products that have been turned off too. Horrible list.
Died is such a charged word for acquired which is usually celebrated for the company
> Died is such a charged word for acquired which is usually celebrated for the company
Correction: for the investors.
When a company is acquired, sometimes the company's products get a new lease on life, and sometimes the company's products are killed, or allowed to die.
Acquired is such a euphemism for died which is usually mourned by users.
Some of these acquired products aren't dead or even in maintenance mode though, they're still running. So it doesn't really make sense to include them in a graveyard, among the other very much alive projects like Streamlit and LangFuse, or missing dead projects like Sora.
This is just slop. I wouldn't give this too much attention.
Domain unreachable being marked as 'dead' just makes this whole list kinda not helpful?
Just the first item I can see https://tooldirectory.ai/tools/letterdrop-ai-content-creatio... but the site just looks fine? https://letterdrop.com/
Maybe some of these are not really dead but thriving enough they are able to get a proper .com domain :^)
Really wish there was a link to the site they tried for every "dead" site, if only to see the goodbye notice that pages put up. Sites like "Our Incredible Journey" [1] really highlight just what happens to so many of these companies, but an unreachable domain is definitely not a main criteria to base a graveyard off of.
[1] https://ourincrediblejourney.tumblr.com/
Streamlit seems very much alive. I used it on and off in the past. Went to their website and it looks very much alive.
Ditto for Weights and Biases.
They are in the "Year unknown (12)" category but that's a weird thing to include.
Plus they aren't even AI products, but either have vigorous pre-AI use (W&B) or are completely non-AI but just used by lots of prototypes (streamlit)
Weights and Biases is a tool for monitoring AI training runs.
I don't see how you can say it has "pre-AI use" unless you are narrowly defining AI to be LLMs.
Weights & Biases goes way back to 2017, before deep learning was called "AI". It's used for all sorts of non-AI ML too. It may be used for lots of AI but it sees a ton of non-AI use too. It's definitely not my thing (I prefer MLFlow) but lots of people love it.
Yes, it's active and even had a new release last week
it's because this is just unverified slop that i doubt was thrown together by a human. Langfuse has ongoing conferences and is still used by many frameworks.
List is missing OpenAI’s Sora.
> Bit.ai
> https://bit.ai/updates
seems up? then again, i do not know anything about the tool. maybe the marketing site is up, but the tool isn't?
Oh man, lots of dead ideas. Atm attention is more important than ever, cos delivering on ideas got easier. Getting the attention your product needs got harder
A lot of these are just sticking a ui in front of someone else's AI and silently feeding it extra prompts.
This adds a tiny amount of value, sure, but enough to gamble millions on? Obviously not.
No wonder they failed
Did delivering quality really get easier? I'm certainly not seeing it in the software I use. Delivering scale doesn't mean the mission was executed well.
Judging from everyone I know, it will take people a lot of time to learn and accept a lesson from decades ago(one from before some of us were even born and I'm in my mid 30's): lines of code is a shit metric. Sloppers tend to believe that something seemingly working = production ready = good execution. And the metric, of course, is lines of code or "tokens". Until then, the list on this website will keep growing exponentially.
Does it seem like even senior developers are forgetting this axiom? Or do we feel as though it's been obviated by LLM grokking swaths of text for us?
TBH I'm so arrogant, I always suspect there's redundant nonsense in any code module I haven't myself inspected. LLM code is no different.
> I always suspect there's redundant nonsense in any code module I haven't myself inspected.
I don't think this is arrogance in the sense that it's probably correct. It is however pretty easy to take that line of thinking into an arrogant attitude though, which is the real issue.
Seniors are no different and that infuriates me even more. The few times I felt lazy and let an AI do a simple function for me, all hell broke loose. I'm starting to think that many people were never that senior to begin with: Writing the code accounts for very little of what development requires and is often the easy part. Understanding the problem and finding the sweet spot/optimal compromise, edge cases and how you can break it is what has always been difficult. Seeing github explode with slop and github(microsoft/openai) themselves push even harder should be a wake up call for anyone that understands what development is: not writing the code but having someone else go through it, analyze it, understand the problem you are trying to solve and why you made the decisions that you made - that pretty much always takes a lot more time than writing the actual code. And then I see someone push 20 commits in a day, each being 5000 lines, jam packed with emojis and other slop and tell me that they carefully reviewed all of them? Yeah, that's bullshit, mate.
I'm easily pushing 20 commits a day, but I won't pretend to have reviewed it all, let alone carefully. What I did was design it all carefully.
But, for some projects, yes—I still do line-by-line code review with a colleague.
Then again, a lot of my efforts are explicit refactor aimed at reducing LOC and tidying the codebase with, eg DRY.
> The few times I felt lazy and let an AI do a simple function for me, all hell broke loose.
This is confusing, because LLMs are more than capable of implementing "a simple function." How did you spec it out?
I once worked at a fairly large corp that considered itself tech-forward (it was a retail ecommerce company), and at one point they just decided to demote all engineers one level because they somehow finally realized that everyone they had been calling "Senior" were definitely not at that level.
Just like how more RAM and compute in the cloud made us worse engineers (no need to turn your brain on to tune performance).
When the brain is off for one thing, it's off for the rest as well. There is a lot of talk about "we don't have to think about code so we can think of ideas", but that's not how it works. We just don't think.
They should put microphones in the cloud servers so you can hear the fans spin up when you run a program. It's a bit more impactful than a silent CPU usage graph.
Just use RPM sensors and room temperature?
> Bing AI - Acquired by Microsoft.
> Microsoft's Bing search engine with AI-enhanced features The product has since been folded into Microsoft; visitors to the original URL are now redirected to copilot.microsoft.com.
What? Besides the fact that Bing was always a MSFT product, the LLM assisted search feature on Bing is still separate [0] from copilot.microsoft.com. At most it was a rename, though Copilot on the MSFT side is different from the one on Bing, is different from the one relying on your local TPU, is different from the one on Github... Great branding.
Even if the content was unreviewed LLM slop, I'd be hard pressed to find a model that outputs that Bing was bought by MSFT when at no point were the two separate.
Also, missing some of the greatest failures like Bard, Dia Browser, Sora, etc.
[0] https://www.bing.com/copilotsearch
Im shutting down my product without shipping due to liability and way too wild product unreliability (expecting AI to make a call reliability is no good). I basically vibed up a personal medical record, so I may open source it at some point.
Please stop posting this.
e: Apologies, I had this confused for the other "dead tech projects" website posted recently that was similarly full of false information: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47945955
To rephrase it: Please stop posting slop websites full of incorrect information.
It's like an invention that allowed anyone anywhere to sell chicken mcnuggets with no startup costs. Too many people love it, try stopping it. We automated listicles etc. and now we're going to be drowning in them.
A lot of these were just company projects on their own subdomain being folded into the main company. I don't know if I'd consider that "dead" or "acquired", just restructured?
I recently tried to sign up for a new domain with a .ai namespace. I tried around 50 names. All of them were not only taken, but seemingly have a landing page with varying degrees of functionality described.
Try it - type a word into your browser with .ai and you’ll see
graveyard.ai is still open.
not anymore!
sports.ai is returning a 403 unfortunately.
yeah, like many comments have said, aquired is not the same as dead.
The fact that some of the domains lapsed is wild, bit.ai has got to worth a bit. But I also checked a handful of the lapsed domains, they aren't lapsed, eg airfront.ai is still active
Counting 38 acquired companies as dead is misleading the reader.
Missing phind search engine. Was dev focused search engine
Same as crypto/blockchain five years ago. Exactly the same.
Reminds me of fuckedcompany.com during the internet / web bubble in 2000 and the early 2000s.
Seems like every bubble has the same thing going on. I guess during tulip mania everyone was a florist.
Came here for this, wasn't disappointed.
„Bing AI: acquired“ I don’t trust that dataset…
Some of these were acquisitions, e.g. CentML by Nvidia. Not sure if that's graveyard material
It depends. If it was an acquihire and the product no longer exists, then it's a graveyard entry.
A lot of garbage, people think to hard to come up with any idea.
2 of the first 4 "website is not responding", are actually responding...
Working on a streamlit app this second... I think its death has been exaggerated.
Just came here to say that https://meat-gpt.sonnet.io/ is still up and running, largely thanks to the hundreds of LLM based bots hallucinating product reviews for it.
I also, thanks to meat gpt, met a guy who sold his startup and pivoted to making beef jerky which sometimes he sells from under his coat pretending it’s drugs.
MeatGPT might’ve lost a competition to a site with perfectly rendered 3d sandwiches, but I’m not bitter, I’m umami.
Well this certainly made my morning more entertaining. Thank you!
Hehe, that was quick, thanks!
New capability creates a lot of experiments, and most experiments fail.
Is this recursive?:)
If not, it needs to be included in the list of things that don't include itself.
Riff is Databutton. They rebranded.
It's a bit clickbaity.
Diagram was acquired by Figma
Its a miracle that company has a german offering..
This is just slop, it's baffling that it reaches the top
Do you ever upvote links? Upon reflection I realize that I hardly ever do. Perhaps thoughtful participants could redouble our efforts in this regard.
this list has a lot of false positives.
Never heard of most of these. What a waste of a click.
I am seeing an increase in stories upvoted here that contain multiple obvious errors or lack of basic fact checking. AI to blame or we are all vote happy for stories that float our boat in some way?
Probably both, but HN has been floated its own boat since well before AI, so that one is for certain.
We will be seeing more on this list and others very soon.
Most of these AI wrappers shouldn't be businesses and most of them are scams.
When OpenAI and Anthropic's TAM is any software business or anything that runs on a digital screen, the margins for every software business trends to 0.
An (almost) alphabetical list that ends at M? Hmm...
It's metaslop.
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Wish there was some better self moderation capability to ban sites or users that just post nonsensical slop.
What I don't understand is how half the comments are calling out how bad the content is, yet it's somehow 4th on the frontpage?
It looks like generic AI slop, the site doesn't even render the headings for their SEO spam "Curated AI Tool Collections by Use Case" section properly and they're half cut off. The images all have the very distinct generic AI hue to them without any attempt of bringing it into a specific style or brand.
Who is upvoting this stuff? Do people not care? Is it just bots gaming the system? Am I an old man shouting at a cloud?
the whole database is an AI slop tbh
I wonder when it will add itself to the list
1/3 of these were acquired so far. I think what would be interesting is a label that showed whether anyone made money before it shutdown.
Some of the acquired didn't even shut down. https://wandb.ai/site seems to be up and running.
This site may join its own list.
Yeah weight and biases is definitely still active