A Brief History of Fish Sauce

(legalnomads.com)

52 points | by vinhnx 17 hours ago ago

16 comments

  • rawgabbit 2 minutes ago ago

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  • robocat 2 minutes ago ago

    I vividly remember the reek of a fish sauce factory in Vietnam.

    I highly recommend avoiding going anywhere near them.

  • dherman 9 minutes ago ago

    My high school Latin classmates and I made garum and left it to ferment in my back yard for a month. Young and foolish as we were, we stored it in a plastic Tupperware container. The day I brought it back to school for the class tasting, I had it sitting on a stack of piano books in the passenger seat of my car.

    Weeks later, the rotted fish stench just wouldn't fade from my book of Beethoven sonatas. I ended up throwing it away.

  • kccqzy an hour ago ago

    I bought a bottle of Vietnamese fish sauce (Red Boat brand, the most recommended brand) and added a teaspoon to some pea leaves. I loved the resulting flavor, but my partner did not and complained that it had too much of a fishy smell. A lot of cooking techniques actually seek to remove this fishy smell even when cooking fish, so it was not welcome to add this to something that didn’t contain fish in the first place. It’s certainly not a flavor everyone would like.

    • antinomicus 14 minutes ago ago

      Fish sauce is not supposed to be added to the point that you can taste the fishy taste, you do get that right? If you’ve added enough to impart fishy taste, you’ve added way too much.

      • morkalork a few seconds ago ago

        Right? It's there to add a layer of depth and savoury umami

  • rcakebread 26 minutes ago ago

    I'm just here to thank Kenji for making me try fish sauce.

  • tananan 16 hours ago ago

    Thanks for sharing. It is especially interesting to hear the factors that contributed to the decline of fish sauce use in the west.

    One thing I am “stealing” from SEA is fish sauce in scrambled eggs. Feels almost like a cheat code.

    • vinhnx 11 hours ago ago

      Oh absolutely and you're welcome! Btw, fish sauce in scrambled eggs over rice is one of the simplest, most satisfying meals you'll find across Southeast Asia, in my country Vietnam especially. It's my favorite meal also.

    • ghaff 15 minutes ago ago

      At least in the US, fish in general is somewhat polarizing and, probably especially, strong tasting fish like anchovies, fish sauce, etc. Just not something probably the majority of people grew up with.

    • stevenwoo 2 hours ago ago

      ICYMI - This is an attempt to mimic a secret Vietnamese American restaurant recipe but interesting use of fish sauce with spaghetti https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/san-francisco-style-viet...

    • AdieuToLogic an hour ago ago

      > One thing I am “stealing” from SEA is fish sauce in scrambled eggs. Feels almost like a cheat code.

      A bit of stone ground mustard added to scrambled eggs is another culinary delight.

      • markdown 23 minutes ago ago

        What if my mustard is made without stones. Will it still work?

  • saysjonathan an hour ago ago

    Homemade garum is a fun kitchen experiment, if you have the equipment and patience. Heat + protease + protein substrate is really all you need.

    • joshu an hour ago ago

      it hasn't updated in a while but i quite like this blog: https://www.culinarycrush.biz/all/will-it-garum

    • valzevul an hour ago ago

      On that note, the easiest way to get your hands on some protease is to buy digestive enzymes sold as food supplements (most often they're made out of dried pork pancreas).

      You also don't need much equipment: scales and an immersion circulator should do the trick.