Eliza a Play by Tom Holloway

(mtc.com.au)

16 points | by abrax3141 2 days ago ago

9 comments

  • petermcneeley 5 hours ago ago

    Wow you know its gonna be good when the first thing you are hit on the page is some sorta bizarre land acknowledgement.

    • worik 4 hours ago ago

      Be patient with Australians. They have have a terrible tradition of vicious racism.

      The indigenous people of Australia were only considered part of Australian society (e.g. counted in the census) in 1967. As a New Zealander visiting Australia the casual racism of white Australians is mind blowing. New Zealand is not free from racism, far from it. Australia is next level

      It will take a few generations for Australians to come to terms with living on stolen land, and to adjust to being colonisers. (White New Zelanders, Pākehā have been doing this for over thirty years, it is a process)

      It is odd to put that declaration on a web page, how a digital asset is comparable to standing on land is clearly something the Australians are working on. Good luck to them, move on and let it be.

      • prawn an hour ago ago

        Acknowledgements of Country are not uncommon on Australian web sites, especially with arts organisations. Sometimes they're in the footer, sometimes as an interstitial. They're also common in speeches/formalities.

        Edit: I'd agree though that NZ has a more mature perspective, stronger Maori population and that the condescension is probably fair.

      • petermcneeley 2 hours ago ago

        Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

      • IncreasePosts 4 hours ago ago

        What exactly is supposed to happen though? "Don't be horribly racist" is a nice idea, but it's not like we see people who put these acknowledgements up actually attempting to return the "stolen land"

        I think it makes sense to put it on the website if you're going to do it though, since it's a website about, basically, a building in melbourne.

        • totetsu 16 minutes ago ago

          Well, similarly to how the neo-right slowly shifted the social frame with frog memes and screaming slurs at children on online FPS game lobbies, things like land acknowledgments slowly shift the reference frame of society towords a place where some good outcomes might actually be possible.

    • TMWNN 4 hours ago ago

      The same performative nonsense occurs in Canada.

      Land acknowledgements are the ultimate in virtue signaling; once they actually mean something, they suddenly end. Two overlapping tribal claims in New Brunswick cover 100% of the province. Thus, New Brunswick provincial employees ordered to not make land acknowledgements while working, because of legal case <https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/first-nations-n...>.

      • worik 4 hours ago ago

        What is the counter factual to "virtue signaling"?

        I think you need to rethink what you expect!

  • abrax3141 2 days ago ago

    "Inspired by true events, this world premiere by award-winning playwright Tom Holloway is a gripping psychological thriller about the birth of AI, and the ethical consequences of outsourcing our humanity."