Some iPhone Apps Receive Mysterious Update 'From Apple'

(macrumors.com)

55 points | by tosh 4 hours ago ago

16 comments

  • NeoBild 2 minutes ago ago

    The FairPlay certificate rotation theory makes the most sense. Apple has done silent re-signing before when DRM certificates expired. What's unusual here is the update note surfacing in the App Store UI at all — that's probably an unintended side effect of whatever pipeline they're running this through, not intentional transparency.

  • F30 3 hours ago ago

    In the past, things like this used to be done for signing certificate rollovers.

  • eecc an hour ago ago

    hmm, my money is on some actively used 0-day exploit that Apple is sealing shut before the CVE gets announced.

    By the looks of the app list, they seem to be apps and games that used to be popular and have fallen in disrepair and apps that are starved of maintenance attention.

    On the one hand it could be an exceptionally good example of "stewardship"; on the other hand, if this is true, what if authorities could later compel Apple to manipulate applications in some malign manner?

  • gbil an hour ago ago

    I saw this the other day in a couple of apps, I've checked other apps and didn't have that, did a quick check on HN frontpage and saw nothing and said wth I'll update to see if something changes in the app or there is a message. Got nothing, and didn't think more about it but I'm not sure why, is it the "trust in the process" thing or what?

  • politelemon 2 hours ago ago

    Neither developers nor consumers should be comfortable with this, as this breaks the trust model and is extremely worrying. The site is of course downplaying it given its name, which is a huge shame.

  • hdgvhicv 2 hours ago ago

    Vast majority of change logs are along the lines of “implements to make things better”

  • merelysounds 2 hours ago ago

    Speculation for fun: I always thought popular apps can use private apis or are handled in a special way by the OS itself. If yes, perhaps this is related.

    Then again I found no source for that - and some certificate rollover seems more likely.

  • ting0 an hour ago ago

    Has anyone ever done a proper security audit of VLC that is downloaded from the web? I don't trust it, and the fact that their releases on Github don't include binaries makes me trust it even less. Nobody is compiling VLC from source, and they don't provide any sort of provenance from the GH actions pipeline.

    • kykat 32 minutes ago ago

      All linux distros build VLC from source

    • ohhman11 an hour ago ago

      This seems utterly pointless to worry about. You're fucked either way if you trust VLC.

  • NSUserDefaults 2 hours ago ago

    Could be a fix for per-device asset optimization that got messed up somehow.

    • Someone 2 hours ago ago

      FTA: “The update text is appearing on apps that have not been updated in some time, as well as apps that received recent updates, so it's not clear what the apps have in common.”

      ⇒ I think that’s unlikely. If some optimization got broken that produces results that bad that it has to be fixed, users would have noticed in those apps that “have not been updated in some time”.

  • charcircuit an hour ago ago

    This sounds like a bug with the App Store app than a new update actually being installed.

  • swizz89 3 hours ago ago

    Is it a conspiracy, or just a bug in the app store? Nobody knows.