Sam Altman may control our future – can he be trusted?

(newyorker.com)

232 points | by adrianhon 11 hours ago ago

66 comments

  • ronanfarrow 9 hours ago ago

    Ronan Farrow here. Andrew Marantz and I spent 18 months on this investigation. Happy to answer questions about the reporting.

    • cs702 8 hours ago ago

      Thank you for coming on HN and offering to answer questions.[a]

      This is a fantastic piece, very timely, evidently well-researched, and also well-written. Judging by the little that I know, it's accurate. Thank you for doing the work and sharing it with the world.

      OpenAI may be in a more tenuous competitive position than many people realize. Recent anecdotal evidence suggests the company has lost its lead in the AI race to Anthropic.[b]

      Many people here, on HN, who develop software prefer Claude, because they think it's a better product.[c]

      Is your understanding of OpenAI's current competitive position similar?

      ---

      [a] You may want to provide proof online that you are who you say you are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet%2C_nobody_know...

      [b] https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2026-04-01/openais-sh...

      [c] For example, there are 2x more stories mentioning Claude than ChatGPT on HN over the past year. Compare https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru... to https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru...

      • unsupp0rted 7 minutes ago ago

        Many of us prefer OpenAI's Codex, because we think it's a better product.

        No comment on the CEO: I just find the product superior in everything but UI/UX and conversation. It's better at quality code.

      • ronanfarrow 4 hours ago ago

        Thank you for this, very much appreciate the thoughtful response.

        The piece captures some of the anxieties within OpenAI right now about their competitive position. This obviously ebbs and flows but of late there has been much focus on Anthropic's relative position. We of course mention the allegations of "circular deals" and concerns about partners taking on debt.

        • cs702 2 hours ago ago

          Thank you. Yes, I saw that. The company's always been surrounded by endless talk about insane hype, speculative bubbles, and financial engineering. I wasn't asking so much about that.

          I was asking more about your informed view on how OpenAI's technology, products, and roadmap are perceived, particularly by customers and partners, in comparison to those of competitors.

          If you have an opinion about that, everyone here would love to hear about it.

      • brightbeige 8 hours ago ago

        He’s replying on this twitter thread - perhaps someone with an account can ask there and link his comment here?

        https://xcancel.com/RonanFarrow/status/2041127882429206532#m

      • georgemcbay 5 hours ago ago

        > You may want to provide proof online that you are who you say you are

        Unfortunately it probably doesn't even matter here on HN considering how brigaded down this story is predictably getting.

        But yeah, it was a fantastic piece.

    • taurath 5 hours ago ago

      The statements around the sexual abuse allegations seemed to be the most puzzling to me - his sister’s allegations and claims of underage partners because he has a tendency to hook up with younger partners. It does seem like this piece gives him a pretty clean bill of health in that matter - I guess would you be able to talk about how you investigated?

      Did you do any extra investigations into Annie’s allegations? It feels to me like the unstated conclusion is recovered memory can’t be trusted, which is a popular understanding but a very wrong one put out by the now defunct and discredited False Memory Syndrome Foundation. It was founded by the parents of the psychologist who coined DARVO, directly in reaction to her accusing them of abuse.

      Dissociation is real (I have a dissociative disorder, and abuse I “recovered” but did not remember for much of my adolescence and early adulthood has been corroborated by third parties) and many CSA survivors have severe memory problems that often don’t come to a head until adulthood. I know you didn’t dismiss her claim, but the way the public tends to think about recovered memories is shaped primarily by that awful organization.

      • ronanfarrow 4 hours ago ago

        All fair points on trauma and memory.

        As noted in the piece, we spent months talking to Altman's partners and what we found and didn't is as described.

        • taurath 2 hours ago ago

          Thanks for the response! Cheers just fully reread the piece and appreciate your reporting.

    • cmiles8 8 hours ago ago

      Great reporting.

      Altman describes his shifting views as genuine good faith evolution of thinking. Do you believe he has a clear North Star behind all this that’s not centered on himself?

      • ronanfarrow 4 hours ago ago

        The piece is an interrogation of this very question, at great length and with some nuance. I think what it does most usefully is scrutinize an array of different answers to the question.

        My own impression after many hours of conversation is that he is identifying something of a true north star when he frames this around "winning." There are people in the story who talk about him emphasizing a desire for power (as opposed to, say, wealth). I think he probably also believes, to some extent, the story he tells that equates winning, and his gaining power, with a superabundant utopian future for all.

        However, I think critics correctly highlight a tension between his statements about centering humanity writ large and his tilt into relentless accelerationism.

      • i7l 8 hours ago ago

        (Other people's) money.

    • xnx 6 hours ago ago

      In depth reporting is great. This is a really tricky topic to cover over the course of 18 months. A year and a half ago OpenAI was ascendant, now it's -at best- stalling and, more likely, trending toward irrelevant.

    • FloorEgg 3 minutes ago ago

      Hi Ronan,

      I would love to read your piece and pay you and new Yorker for it, but I am not interested in paying a subscription. If I could press a button and pay a reasonable one time license such as $3 or $5 for just this article, or better yet a few cents per paragraph as they load in, I wouldn't hesitate.

      However I'm not going to pay for yet another subscription to access one article I'm interested in.

      I'm sure you can't do anything about this, but I just wanted you to know.

      You deserve to be compensated for great journalism. In this case, unfortunately, I won't read it and you won't earn income from me.

      • caycep a minute ago ago

        You could hit up a public library...

  • KellyCriterion 7 minutes ago ago

    Na, it will be Dario instead of Sam, Id say? :-))

  • kmfrk 6 hours ago ago

    Gobsmacking details about Altmans' time as Y Combinator president, in case anyone's wondering.

    Fantastic reporting.

    • ronanfarrow 4 hours ago ago

      As is always the case with incredibly precise and rigorously fact-checked reporting like this, where every word is chosen carefully (the initial closing meeting for this one was nearly eight hours long, with full deliberation about each sentence), there is more out there on that subject than is explicitly on the page.

      • kmfrk 3 hours ago ago

        One of the decidedly eerier parts of this story as you keep reading are all the gaps between what people are saying about Altman, and what they clearly want to say about Altman but can't.

  • adrianhon 9 hours ago ago
  • throw4847285 3 hours ago ago

    A new Ronan Farrow piece is a rare gift (and Marantz is no slouch). Can't wait to read this in the physical magazine when it arrives!

  • just_once 7 hours ago ago

    Amazing that this article and an actual comment from Ronan Farrow is this far down the list while...Scientists Figured Out How Eels Reproduce (2022) has 6 times the points.

  • HardwareLust 6 hours ago ago

    Of course he cannot be trusted. Anyone whose motivation is based on greed is by nature untrustworthy.

  • almostdeadguy 5 hours ago ago

    Seems this got buried from the front page very quickly

    • dang 13 minutes ago ago

      It set off the flamewar detector. I've turned that off now.

      I only saw this thread by chance and almost didn't look, because the title made the piece sound like a flamebait blog post. Fortunately I saw newyorker.com beside the title and looked more closely.

    • ronanfarrow 4 hours ago ago

      There is dwindling space for sincere independent accountability reporting on big tech like this to a) be created, since it's incredibly resource-intensive and so many resources flow from Silicon Valley, and b) actually reach people, since more platforms are now owned or otherwise influenced by interested parties.

      Thank you for looking. Please do spread this kind of reporting in your communities, and subscribe to investigative outlets when you can.

      • big_toast 3 hours ago ago

        You can see the vote history here[1]. It's always hard to know exactly why something gets buried. I was a little sad to see the story down-ranked when I saw that you were here in the comments.

        But the discussion is generally pretty low quality with these sort of posts. People react without having read the story, or with whatever was on their mind already, or are insubstantive, or simply low effort. I don't think you'll lose k-factor not having a bigger post here.

        Sometimes if you talk to the mods, they'll let you know their perspective. I generally find they're correct that people are much better at contributing/disseminating new knowledge to the world on more technical topics here.

        [1]: https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=47659135

        • throw4847285 an hour ago ago

          But isn't that circular? If the ranking algorithm used by the mods tends to devalue articles like this because they don't trust the user base to comment intelligently, doesn't that alter the culture of this site to make that more true?

      • almostdeadguy 2 hours ago ago

        This was an excellent piece with many new pieces of information in it. Thanks to you and your coauthor for getting it released.

  • pupppet 7 hours ago ago

    Ask Condé Nast if he can be trusted..

    https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/s/VWJVBNzc2u

  • game_the0ry an hour ago ago

    For those curious about how sama got to where he got and stayed on top for so long, I recommend you read the book: The Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout.

    I am fairly confident when I say this -- sama is a sociopath. I don't know how anyone with solid intuition could even come to any other conclusion than the guy is deeply weird and off-putting.

    Some concepts from the book:

    > Core trait: The defining characteristic is the absence of conscience, meaning they feel no guilt, shame, or remorse.

    > Identification: Sociopaths can be charming and appear normal, but they often lie, cheat, and manipulate to get what they want.

    > The Rule of Threes: One lie is a mistake, two is a concern, but three lies or broken promises is a pattern of a liar.

    > Trust your instincts over a person's social role (e.g., doctor, leader, parent)

    Check and check.

    OpenAI is too important to trust sama with. He needs to go. In fact, AI should be considered a public good, not a commodity pay-as-you-go intelligence service.

  • therobots927 8 hours ago ago

    Excellent work. I’ll have to wait until we get the print version delivered to finish as I’m not signed into the new Yorker on my phone.

    I’ve always been a huge fan of Ronan Farrow’s journalism and willingness to speak truth to power. I think he’s pulling at exactly the right thread here, and it’s very important to counteract Altman’s reputation laundering given that we run a very real risk of him weaseling his way into the taxpayer’s wallet under the current administration.

  • GlibMonkeyDeath 5 hours ago ago

    Disclaimer: I have no association with any AI company and have never met Altman or any of the other top AI scientists.

    The real question is: can anyone be trusted if the fever dreams of super-intelligence come true? Go ahead and replace Sam Altman with someone else - will it make a difference? Any other CEO is going to be under the same overwhelming pressure to make a profit somehow. I think the OpenAI story is messier because it was founded for supposedly altruistic reasons, and then changed.

    Methinks many of Altman's detractors protesteth too much. He's doing his job as it is defined (make OpenAI profitable.) Nothing of substance in this article seemed to make him exceptionally "sociopathic" compared to any other tech CEO. It goes with the territory.

    What depressed me most is that trillions of dollars are being raised for building what will undoubtedly be used as a weapon. My guess is the ROI on that money is going to be extremely bad for the most part (AI will make some people insanely rich, but it is hard to see how the big investors will get a return.) Could you imagine if the world shared the same vision for energy infrastructure (so we could also stop fighting wars over control of fossil fuels and spewing CO2?) A man can dream...

    • tim333 2 hours ago ago

      People do vary even if none are perfect. Demis Hassabis has a pretty good reputation amongst the AI leaders. Altman seems unusually shifty.

  • Cheyana 9 hours ago ago

    Harvey Dent…

    • the_doctah 6 hours ago ago

      The brighter the picture, the darker the negative

  • thm 10 hours ago ago

    Hybris.

  • LetsGetTechnicl 8 hours ago ago

    No

    • gonzo41 8 hours ago ago

      just like Zuck.

  • covercash 8 hours ago ago

    Why are all billionaires (especially tech) such villains?

    • i7l 8 hours ago ago

      I feel the "always have been" meme might be a suitable insert here.

    • seba_dos1 8 hours ago ago

      I'm not 100% sure if it's strictly necessary to be a villain in order to become and remain a billionaire, but it seems like it could be and even if it's not it surely helps.

    • aleph_minus_one 7 hours ago ago

      > Why are all billionaires (especially tech) such villains?

      Not all billionaires are villians. But it is long-known in organizational psychology that dark triad [1] traits are very "helpful" if one wants to climb career ladders fast.

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

    • burnt-resistor 7 hours ago ago

      Money often changes people's attitude in a fashion similar to chronic substance abuse. Plus, there's a insular and detached bubble effect that grows around them.

      Also, there's the psychopathic and narcissistic tendencies of greedier people and the false "virtue" "greed is good" that is contrary to the values espoused by Adam Smith.

      We need standard income tax brackets of 90% after $20M/y and 99% after $100M/y.

  • seba_dos1 8 hours ago ago

    Looks like Betteridge's law of headlines applies here too.

  • drivingmenuts 8 hours ago ago

    Short answer: No. Long answer: Hell, no.

  • josefritzishere 7 hours ago ago

    Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word "NO."

  • sumeno 8 hours ago ago

    Betteridge strikes again

  • ahartmetz 9 hours ago ago

    Well, no, obviously not. Not one bit.

  • Aboutplants 8 hours ago ago

    Seeing Sam Altman slowly degrade into the realization that he is in fact not as smart as others in this space has been fascinating to watch. He used to speak with enthusiasm and confidence and now he’s like a scared little boy who got in way too deep.

    The last person that this happened to was Sam Bankman Fried as investors and regular folk finally realized he was full of complete shit and could only talk the game for so long until the truth emerged.

    • therobots927 8 hours ago ago

      Let’s just hope that scared little boy doesn’t run to Daddy Trump for a bailout.

      • throwawayq3423 10 minutes ago ago

        I have a feeling he might be angling for a pardon if he ends up bringing the whole global economy down.

    • the_doctah 6 hours ago ago

      And they both peddle the same altruism smokescreen. Sociopath leader playbook.

  • gchokov 8 hours ago ago

    He is cooked. Only a matter of time before the whole thing blows up. Once a scammer, always a scammer.

  • catigula 8 hours ago ago

    1. No.

    2. You cannot "control" superintelligent AI.

  • ekjhgkejhgk 8 hours ago ago

    No.

  • lnenad 8 hours ago ago

    This whole situation goes to show that yesterday's conspiracy theorists are today's realists. What's happening to USA's leadership and as a country and what's happening with with their top companies is really scary for the rest of us. If this trend continues we're all definitely gonna end up in a kleptocracy.

  • jesterson 6 hours ago ago

    Watch Altman's reaction in Tucker Carlson interview to the question about (alleged) murder of OpenAI researcher Suchir Balaji.

    The overall response and particularly the body language speaks a lot.

  • guzfip 3 hours ago ago

    > Lehane—whose reported motto, after Mike Tyson, is “Everyone has a game plan until you punch them in the mouth”

    lol do you think these guys have ever been hit? Let alone in the face. They’d probably be less eager to mouth off as much as they do if so.