«ARBITRATION NOTICE. Except for certain kinds of disputes described in Section 15.2 (Dispute Resolution and Arbitration), you agree that disputes arising under these Terms will be resolved by binding,
individual arbitration, and BY ACCEPTING THESE TERMS, YOU AND ZED ARE EACH WAIVING THE RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY OR TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY CLASS ACTION OR REPRESENTATIVE PROCEEDING. ALTERNATIVELY, CUSTOMER
MAY OPT OUT OF ARBITRATION PER SECTION 17.2(a).»
Judging from the opt out section and other parts of the ToS it seems pretty clear to me that most of the terms only apply (including the arbitration clause) to if you're using their online services. I don't get what the big hooha is about
Binding arbitration is the most sure fired sign of an organization that hates its users and is fully against the rule of law and the rights of consumers. What a deeply disappointing development.
I’d rather an organization kick puppies and kidnap babies than implement binding / opt OUT arbitration. I’m so irritated by this. It is the first major misstep by the organization and unfortunately makes you about as honorable as Microsoft.
Absolutely galled.
I hope there will be a hard fork that is properly maintained and doesn’t hate its users.
The terms themselves don’t seem to restrict use of the editor, just “the Service”, which is defined as the subscription service (separate to “the Software”). Not sure why the email was phrased this way but it seems to be misaligned with the actual terms.
«ARBITRATION NOTICE. Except for certain kinds of disputes described in Section 15.2 (Dispute Resolution and Arbitration), you agree that disputes arising under these Terms will be resolved by binding, individual arbitration, and BY ACCEPTING THESE TERMS, YOU AND ZED ARE EACH WAIVING THE RIGHT TO A TRIAL BY JURY OR TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY CLASS ACTION OR REPRESENTATIVE PROCEEDING. ALTERNATIVELY, CUSTOMER MAY OPT OUT OF ARBITRATION PER SECTION 17.2(a).»
It's awful.
The good thing is you can still use their software without signing in and having to agree.
I wonder how many licenses throughout the years people have blindly clicked agree while the dispute resolution clause read:
Well shit, alternatives?
Oh, cmon, code editors are plenty. I read this in my inbox and uninstalled Zed. It's not my main editor though.
Judging from the opt out section and other parts of the ToS it seems pretty clear to me that most of the terms only apply (including the arbitration clause) to if you're using their online services. I don't get what the big hooha is about
Binding arbitration is the most sure fired sign of an organization that hates its users and is fully against the rule of law and the rights of consumers. What a deeply disappointing development.
I’d rather an organization kick puppies and kidnap babies than implement binding / opt OUT arbitration. I’m so irritated by this. It is the first major misstep by the organization and unfortunately makes you about as honorable as Microsoft.
Absolutely galled.
I hope there will be a hard fork that is properly maintained and doesn’t hate its users.
These are usually standard clauses in any legal contract
> Age requirement. You must be 18 or older to use the Service.
Terrible rule, even if effectively unenforceable.
The terms themselves don’t seem to restrict use of the editor, just “the Service”, which is defined as the subscription service (separate to “the Software”). Not sure why the email was phrased this way but it seems to be misaligned with the actual terms.
Huge self-own.
>>You must be 18 or older to use the Service.
I suspect this is because minors cannot normally be legally bound by contracts they sign.