117 comments

  • ManlyBread 21 hours ago ago

    >AI

    I'm apathetic. It's there, it's a tool.

    >international conflicts

    I am fortunate enough to not live in the countries mentioned. I am close to Ukraine so this one is sort-of important to me in terms that I don't want Russia to win, but at the same time there's no point in following the news closely. If something big happens I will most definitively hear about it whether I'd like it or not.

    >The US / Europe

    Nothing I can do about any of that so no reason to get emotional. The most I can do as an European is to vote. Anything else is entirely out of my control unless I'd dedicate my entire free time and career to change things and I am completely uninterested in doing that.

    >the stock market

    Invest in index funds and forget it exists. If even that's too much for you then you then just put the money in the deposit. Interacting with the stock market is entirely optional.

    >tech sucks

    Always sucked. If you don't believe me feel free to go back to any underpowered machine of your choice and use it as a daily driver for a while. Dealing with any tasks on an old PC with a single core processor and 5400 rpm hard drive is pure agony compared to what we have right now.

    >How are you all staying sane?

    Stop being terminally online and go do something you actually enjoy. Most of the stuff you mentioned doesn't even actually affect you in the slightest.

    • boyter 21 hours ago ago

      All of the above.

      Stop reading the news. It makes you depressed or angry. Go hiking. Walk on the beach. Play with a dog or your children. Climb a tree.

      Leave the slave slab phone at home, or delete every news and social app. Do not browse the web. Take a book and read.

      It will be hard at first. Then it gets easier. Best thing I ever did.

      Reminder. What passes for news today wouldn’t have registered for most people 100 years ago.

      • mvcosta91 21 hours ago ago

        Seconding this. I only heard about Iran bombing 23 hours after it happened. I was playing SimCity 2013 with my 7yo. I’m reading older books, playing older games, exercising, and keeping a loose eye on AI so I don’t fall too far behind, but I always wait about two months before adopting anything new (like Claude Code, new tools, etc.). I know that’s pretty superficial, but the goal is staying sane, right?

      • m4tthumphrey 21 hours ago ago

        > Reminder. What passes for news today wouldn’t have registered for most people 100 years ago.

        This is a great point.

      • throw0101c 20 hours ago ago

        > Reminder. What passes for news today wouldn’t have registered for most people 100 years ago.

        Up to a point. There are some things that should not be ignored, e.g., "Trump says he's not mulling a draft executive order to seize control over elections":

        * https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-says-hes-not-mul...

        "Trump, seeking executive power over elections, is urged to declare emergency":

        * https://archive.is/https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2...

        • blitzar 19 hours ago ago

          > should not be ignored, e.g., "Trump says he's not mulling ...

          The prior news that "sources close to people who say they hear from a guy who went to school with someone who said ... that trump said he was mulling thinking about drafting an executive order ..." should be ignored, the follow up should be ignored and the inevitable follow to the follow up should also be ignored.

          These are attention seeking outbursts at best, clickbait, lies and propaganda at worst.

    • wise_blood 10 minutes ago ago

      I feel like I could've wrote this word-for-word.

      I'm Pierre Menard

    • 2-to-15 21 hours ago ago

      There's been a couple of posts recently that have been great and I apologize about not having links, but one was about talking to strangers and the other was about helping others. For me, it's amazing how helping someone out or taking with a stranger can revitalize my look on life and everything going on in the world. It reminds me that there's good in this life and the world.

    • RASBR89 19 hours ago ago

      Going back to some old machines with this hardware and they feel rapid compared to now. Instant UI response

      • ManlyBread 17 hours ago ago

        That's because you're more likely than not using the best (or close to the best) hardware that generation had to offer. Try using a mid-end or a low-end machine and doing more than one thing at a time, it gets ugly real quick.

    • SirFatty 19 hours ago ago

      >AI I'm apathetic. It's there, it's a tool.

      You won't feel that way in the near future.

      • ManlyBread 18 hours ago ago

        Is it the same future where I sent crypto from my no-code app to buy a NFT to use in my Metaverse apartment that I interact with through VR?

      • al_borland 7 hours ago ago

        I’ve been hearing this for 3 years now. Exactly how long do you want people to live in fear?

        This feels like Elon’s FSD predictions. In 2013 he claimed 90% of the miles would be driven autonomously by 2016. It’s now 2026… 10 years after the prediction was supposed to come true and we’re still waiting.

      • hypeatei 13 hours ago ago

        If you're sure of this, then what actions have you taken to shield yourself and/or profit from this? If I were a true believer that AI was going to takeover, I'd be allocating a large part of my portfolio into AI companies (hardware & software) along with learning a trade that's relatively safe, like cleaning septic tanks or construction.

        Do you really believe in the narrative you're pushing?

    • jjav 11 hours ago ago

      > Always sucked. If you don't believe me feel free to go back to any underpowered machine of your choice and use it as a daily driver for a while.

      No, tech didn't always suck. Sure, it was slower hardware. But it was empowering hardware. You owned it, it served only you, didn't spy on you and you could make it do whatever you desired.

      Now it's mostly walled corporate gardens, you are the product, every gadget spies on you and pushes advertising at you. On some phones you can't even choose what to run. Every mouse click and finger movement is tracked and phoned to the corportate overlords.

      So yes, tech mostly sucks now but it wasn't the case earlier.

      • fragmede 6 hours ago ago

        Yes but holy shit I can describe what I want and AI writes the code for me and then I describe the bug, talking to my phone, doing speech-to-text, and the computer fixes the problem for me! And you can be negative and dystopian about it and get hella depressed, or you can just choose not to be. Yeah, I get the Sunday scaries and freak out every so often, but are you gonna let that take you down or are you gonna do something about it?

    • yakshaving_jgt 21 hours ago ago

      I feel broadly the same as the above, except on the apathy towards Ukraine.

      Ukraine is standing because they took action.

      Something that helps me keep my sanity and dignity is by materially supporting Ukrainian soldiers. I will never regret having stood on the right side of history on this.

      If anyone wants to contribute but you aren't sure how, I'm happy to help. Email is in the profile.

  • morgengold 13 hours ago ago

    I am astounded by how many comments recommend completely withdrawing from worldly matters. While I can understand why this may seem like a smart move, it cannot be the right choice ethically (think of Kant’s categorical imperative). Of course, you cannot directly influence world politics. But choosing a small area where you can make something better—anything that positively affects your fellow human beings—seems to me the more appropriate path. In the end, it will likely also lead to less nihilism and more happiness. And more sanity.

    • magarnicle 9 hours ago ago

      Is it because "the news" has changed beyond what we are designed to handle. It used to be just local gossip, and every now and then you'd hear about the king having a son or something. Eventually things progressed to where you would get newspapers and TV telling you what's happening in your country and maybe some global news, but you would only get that once a day and space was limited. Now it feels like news sites dredge up every bad thing happening everywhere at every minute and give it a big headline, trying to convince you it is important to know.

    • al_borland 7 hours ago ago

      I saw people trading the macro for the micro, focusing on family and those close to them. That is a small areas where they can make things better. Focusing on giving children a good childhood and teaching them well, will do more than filling them with the anxiety they’d pickup from a news obsessed parent who is too stressed out to play a game. This is the most positive thing most people can do for the world.

    • appreciatorBus 12 hours ago ago

      Not watching/reading "news" or engaging in mass or social media is not withdrawal.

      Rather it is doing that which opens the space in your mind to be able to "choose a small area where you can make something better".

      As long as you are on a hamster wheel of "Trump said this" "Trump said that" you can't make anything better in your life, nor be of much service to anyone else.

      • morgengold 11 hours ago ago

        I'm all in on a healthy information diet. I was more concerned with comments like:

        "I am apathetic to everything because there is nothing I can do about any of that. I am a speck of dust on a cog of a machine. There is absolutely no point of worrying about any of this."

  • christofosho 11 hours ago ago

    Doing things I love:

      - Learning French and Japanese
      - Drinking tea and exploring tea culture
      - Playing Geoguessr (or in my case, Geotastic) to see different places in the world and just generally have a fun time figuring out languages, and unique traits of different countries and cultures
      - Reading and watching science fiction, lots and lots of it!
      - Coding. I really do love writing code.
      - Trying to improve my communication skills, and ability to break down and describe tasks. It relates to AI, but also relates to working and interacting with other humans. :)
      - Working
      - Hanging out with my family
      - Eating yummy food that I enjoy
      - Doing crosswords
      - Playing video games
      - Writing
      - Rock climbing, other physical activities like walking or doing a quick work out
      - Cleaning and fixing the home.
    
    These don't solve all of the problems, but they make me feel better about my own life and that positivity helps me interact with others and think more positively about the world and all the cool things in it.
  • monkeydust 21 hours ago ago

    I have split my life into things I can control and I can't control. Both at home and at work. There are things that sit on the line of course but global affairs are firmly non-controlable in near term at least, baring any elections I can express my view through.

    I do get why people are generally struggling more, the concept of stability in many senses of that word seems to be gone.

  • pendenthistory 21 hours ago ago

    My biggest problem right now is thanks to Claude I'm making much faster progress on my passion project and I'm working in a maniac state almost, but then I remind myself that it's probably meaningless because if things progress as they have, anyone can just copy what I've built, and if we get to AGI all bets are off anyway. Balancing these two moods is tough. Lots of sleepless nights lately. Thankfully I have a large financial cushion to fall back on, but then again the market could tank 50% this year and then even that wouldn't be much of a consolation. Can't be in cash either, opportunity cost too large.

    • RealityVoid 21 hours ago ago

      > robably meaningless because if things progress as they have, anyone can just copy what I've built

      Most other people lack the prerequisite skills even with Claude at their disposal. And it was always the case that other people could copy your things, it's just the effort was much higher, now it's more accessible.

      Regardless, I would suggest you don't let this deter you from bringing something new into this world. It might have enough value to make it all worth it. Or not, but not releasing it you won't find out for sure.

      • pendenthistory 20 hours ago ago

        I like working on it and will definitely release it, just don't want to set myself up for disappointment later. Try to enjoy the process of creation instead. But, it could also be that it's something that has value for a few years, and maybe that's enough.

    • skyberrys 3 hours ago ago

      Hey you can always tell yourself to take it easy because in 6 months the AI will get better and you could build the whole thing that's preventing you from sleep, in 30 minutes in the future. Unless you are worrying about the progress towards AGI.

    • patrickk 21 hours ago ago

      In a similar boat. I’m running “ClaudClaw” a clone of Openclaw to enforce discipline in my limited free time to get an AI agency off the ground, in order to try to escape the miserable corporate grind. On the one hand, it’s a massive productivity boost, on the other hand, this tech is going to further hollow out the middle class everywhere and make so many people redundant. I don’t have the luxury to simply quit and focus on it full time.

      • pendenthistory 21 hours ago ago

        Leaving your job has a different sense of finality now. When time comes to look for a new job, will the job even exist anymore? Makes the risk calculus a bit different. Maybe there won't be mass unemployment, but even a modest increase in SWE unemployment could make it so much harder and more stressful to find a job.

        • patrickk 19 hours ago ago

          We’re already seeing the impact of AI in the jobs market for junior devs, and in marketing and more. So there’s unquestionably going to be a rough adjustment period. My thought on it is to build something concrete that I own, and take advantage of the disruption of possible, instead of being crushed by it.

    • eucyclos 18 hours ago ago

      I'm in a pretty similar position. I've been wanting to make something to align incentives between advertisers and the people who see ads for years. Finally sat down with Claude last month and now I have a working prototype. It feels surreal, I'm not a 10x programmer by any means. If I can do it, so can a lot of other people. It does feel like I don't have much time to capitalize on the first mover advantage.

      But on the other hand... The things we really believe in we'd still cheer if someone else executed the idea better than us. Sure, we might make less money, but the idea gets to live.

      And the odds of someone executing better didn't really go up, ai is just average across the board. So at worst, the odds of someone executing our ideas as well as us went up. Could be worse.

    • garyfirestorm 19 hours ago ago

      Make sure to fix sleep issues. Maniac state + lack of sleep can get you in some serious trouble. Disconnect for a while.

    • AnimalMuppet 6 hours ago ago

      Sell enough that, if the market tanks, you won't regret it. Keep enough in that, if the market doesn't tank, you also won't regret it.

      For me, I moved some money out of the stock market. The PE ratios are just too high to make sense. (I mean, I think that the competition is bonds, and the interest rates on bonds being lower means that stocks can support a higher PE. Still, I think the current level is probably insane. I especially suspect that AI stocks are going to get hammered, so I reduced my exposure there.) But I didn't get completely out; for medium- to long-term money, I still want to be there.

      Could I miss some gains? Absolutely. But I also could dodge some losses.

  • kleiba 21 hours ago ago

    The world at large always sucks. Most enjoyable things in life do not come out of worrying about the world but from things close to you, your family, your friends, your community. Focus more on the things you can actually have an influence on than everything that's out of your control.

  • pickleglitch 17 hours ago ago

    A lot of the replies here are saying to just not worry about any of this stuff because most of it doesn't really affect you and you can't do anything about it anyway. As someone who battles chronic anxiety every day, I don't think those answers are helpful.

    Yes, the world is always full of uncertainty, and yes, you being less online will probably help, but that doesn't mean we should all just ignore the horrors unfolding around us.

    While it may feel like there's nothing you can do, there's a phrase I've found helpful: action absorbs anxiety.

    You don't have to fix the world. But you can try to improve your tiny corner of it. Whether it's creating a small stockpile of emergency supplies, or writing letters to elected officials, DOING something can help a lot more than you might think.

    For me, I have made a hobby out of self-hosting as many services as I can so I can at least feel like I'm a little less dependent on big tech. I study history to try and better understand the present. I write a blog to give expression to my anxieties, and that helps too, even if very few people ever read it.

    And yes, limiting your social media time is a good idea. I recently set a "no social media after 8pm" rule for myself. I'll read a book, watch a movie, or play a video game instead. It helps.

    • morgengold 13 hours ago ago

      I agree with you. Withdrawing into one’s own little world cannot be the answer. And saying it’s the only realm you can control isn’t really true.

      For me personally, doing that would always feel like avoiding responsibility. It might bring a kind of shallow happiness, but not a real sense of meaning or connection.

      That only comes from taking responsibility—not just for your own small world, but for the world around you as well.

      • fragmede 6 hours ago ago

        Pay enough attention to find worthy causes too contribute to. Don't pay so much attention that you get overwhelmed into depressed inaction. There's always going to be bad shit going on in the world. Sitting at home crying about it is less effective than if I hadn't heard about it and am able to go out there and do something about something I did manage to hear about.

    • mrala 17 hours ago ago

      Have a link to your blog?

  • parliament32 3 hours ago ago

    Focus on things you can control. Everything else is like.. good to know, I guess, but ultimately irrelevant. You getting stressed about some conflict abroad isn't going to change the situation, right, so instead of stewing about it why not go work out or something?

  • enceladus06 2 hours ago ago

    I keep my mouth shut. Rational self interest, with the caveat that my own self is irrational. Let other people dig their own graves.

  • sph 21 hours ago ago

      echo 0.0.0.0 news.ycombinator.com | sudo tee /etc/hosts
    
    Repeat for reddit.com, x.com, yourfavouritenewssite.com
  • ZpJuUuNaQ5 21 hours ago ago

    I am apathetic to everything because there is nothing I can do about any of that. I am a speck of dust on a cog of a machine. There is absolutely no point of worrying about any of this.

  • throwaway39328 4 hours ago ago

    Olanzapine. I was rather distraught that it worked so well after the psychiatrist suggested it. I mean, I'm not psychotic, so why the anti-psychotic? They used to call them "major tranquilizers" back in the day. And wow yeah. The edge is softened. The anger dissipates. Also the deeper significance to things, the untied threads that leave my mind racing, reaching for signs, signs which point to doom mostly these days, that gets significantly quieted too. I now get why people who have to take these drugs every day describe them as turning them into "zombies". But as a practical tool oh I don't know what I would have done this winter without it some nights.

  • anilgulecha 21 hours ago ago

    My 2c:

    1) Reflect daily, and inspect your feelings. Most of the negative sentiments and positive sentiments of AI arise from how they impact your identity. ("I'm a great programmer", "I build complicated systems easily". Doing an RCA on your thoughts is like debugging.

    2) List down things you can control, and you cannot control. "I cannot stop the launch of the new model." .. "I control my usage of these models" .. "My family needs me to do this, and I can" .. "I can do this in my team".

    3) Fully accept both of above. It's a process.

    4) Finally, you can then see what are the new identities and new things you can do in this disrupted new world, and you can begin to focus on those.

    I think these also model the stages of dealing with trauma, because both require acceptance to truly figure out the next steps in a positive way.

  • whiteboardr 21 hours ago ago

    Stay sober and mostly away from news.

  • dmos62 21 hours ago ago

    Is this a mental health advice request or an invitation to rant? Serious question. We can do one of these, but not both, I think.

    • antonvs 20 hours ago ago

      Are you sure rants aren’t (or can’t be) good for mental health?

      • dmos62 19 hours ago ago

        An emotionally charged rant (what other kind is there?) is a projection. It can be good when you're overwhelmed and need to get through a crisis, but it's bad long term. That's how I see it, at least.

        • antonvs 7 hours ago ago

          “It’s bad long term” is an unsupported assertion. Why do you believe it?

          • AnimalMuppet 6 hours ago ago

            It's bad if it's all you do for the long term. You need to move on from it eventually.

            • antonvs an hour ago ago

              The same is true for being overly positive all the time: toxic positivity. It's fairly obvious to say that something is bad if it's all you do. There's no particular reason to single out rants here.

              In fact, IME people who do that often tend to have an attitude than leans toward the toxic positivity side.

  • ChrisMarshallNY 21 hours ago ago

    It’s a long story, for other venues. I participate in an organization dedicated to personal development, and helping others.

    Gives me a purpose, and a framework for life.

    Acceptance is a pretty key Principle for me. There’s only so much I can actually affect, so I’m best off, dedicating my focus where it will actually get something done.

  • necovek 21 hours ago ago

    It helps to have lived through some of this (especially conflicts) in 1990s (former Yugoslavia), so it is really more of the same.

    Even the president US got, we have claim to being early birds ourselves with our current sitting president in Serbia for ~13 years now (they've switched between being a prime minister and president to work around two-term limit): we are very familiar with the rhetoric and "style" (lack of?) of communication, albeit from a less influential position.

    AI, as mentioned, is just a tool. A very powerful one, so will cause damage left and right, but also some large productivity jumps when wielded well. Pick up and do good with it.

  • bstrama a day ago ago

    As for me I feel the AI fear. Just a few months ago, narrative that AI won't replace programmers, made a lot of sense, and still somewhat does.

    But after spending a few weeks totally vibe coding my new project, which is technically advanced, which for sure would be very hard to do on my own, I felt the pressure of what happens in the future with my career.

    The only thing keeping me sane is hope, that even if AI takes SE jobs, it makes us a potentially strong founder candidates, we know how to code, how the good architecture should look like and have amazing tool, to iterate very quickly. Although the fact that rapid development is not enough to succeed is another thing.

    • elzbardico 21 hours ago ago

      If we are replaced, it means that a lot of other white collar occupations will also face replacement.

      But, we are responsible for a disproportional parcel of the aggregate demand and also, the white collar middle class holds a giant share of all credit.

      Put all these people out of a job, and you'll end up with the mother of all economic depressions ever.

      Either the powers-that-be find a solution (like return to office was arguably a response to a potential office real estate value crisis) or something else will happen (communism? butlerian jihad?).

      Given that all of this is completely out our control, we need to concentrate in what we can control:

      1) Save money.

      2) Cut expenses.

      3) Stay ahead of the curve by learning fanatically.

      4) Stay fit and healthy.

      5) Don't get emotionally invested in every bit of news you see. Everyone got an agenda, everyone has bias, everyone commit mistakes.

      • bluefirebrand 4 hours ago ago

        > Put all these people out of a job, and you'll end up with the mother of all economic depressions ever.

        > Either the powers-that-be find a solution ...

        I don't personally feel very optimistic that they are actually trying to find a solution

  • orwin 19 hours ago ago

    Just go out and talk to random people. Or if you're very shy, participate in a club of something you're interested in. When I was younger I found myself in a 'squat' with people I didn't know at first (very rural, with tents, stone abandoned homes), it cured my of my fear of ridicule (that and being a youth camp counsellor). Since we found ourselves there for the same reason, it was for the first time very easy for me to find common ground, and I think that helped a lot.

  • mrdependable 5 hours ago ago

    I'm ready to start my own counter-culture. Turn on, tune in, drop out.

  • TYPE_FASTER 18 hours ago ago

    I go outside in the woods frequently. It is quiet there. I find peace, within myself, and with the earth where we live. Trees fall from the weight of the snow, but the landscape has been there for millennia and it reminds me that this, too, will pass.

  • Havoc 21 hours ago ago

    Feels more like things are chaotic and uncertain to me rather than explicitly negative.

    eg still think there is a fair bit of upside to be had from AI even if it does make me wary about job situation on a 5-10 year scale.

    It sure as hell won’t be boring the next 10 years that’s for sure. And that to me is a positive on itself.

  • profstasiak 13 hours ago ago

    Just stop reading the news. Work normally, after work go for a long walk and read a book. Trust me on this one

  • animuchan 21 hours ago ago

    Staying sane is a gradient.

    But personally the current war gives hope. Ayatollah was Putin's serious leg to stand on, not just in the region. If Iran's new govt is normalcy-adjacent, not just the terrorist orgs suffer without support, but also the Putin's war thing collapses. A decade (or less) of peace and prosperity is upon some of us.

    And AI is neat, it highlights so many things about people. We start to value agency in fellow human beings. People understand context better now, and give more context proactively when talking; but also understand that there's context poisoning, which is why derailing is bad.

    In the end everything is a tool: AI is a tool, war is a tool. We think AI is for coding, and war is for power, but in the end AI makes us know ourselves better. War makes us know ourselves better (and also gave us fast airplanes). This is the important, this is what will remain -- when the kingdom is ash, and the echo still drums.

  • elcapitan 21 hours ago ago

    This reads like a Jeopardy answer for "What is stoicism?"

  • vanillameow 21 hours ago ago

    I think we are all collectively coasting on a wave of lagging behind the current technology. Yes the new models have been exceptionally strong. But I think it's just because developers are exposed to the ecosystem more that we fear its impact more. In reality most white collar work is about one or two generations of AI models away at most from being easily replaced. Basically anything that doesn't involve human contact. Like I'm sorry but a lot of jobs in billing or middle management or form processing are not more difficult to replace than managing a whole ass several million LoC legacy application with 8 layers of architecture. As soon as AI can reliably navigate these quantities of context and memory, it's over for a lot of professions as we know them.

    I keep myself sane by one, as others have said, realizing that developers will still very likely have a better understanding of how to use AI to create stable and maintainable software; There's more to software development than just coding.

    Second, I am increasingly becoming aware that I'm more than my white-collar output, which I feel like many devs struggle with specifically since programming is also many devs personal hobby. It's a bit depressing when you have an idea for a side project to solve a personal problem and Opus can shit it out in 5 minutes. But I've also realized it frees up a lot of time. I can realize a lot of those small automations that were piling up on my backlog now. Ideas that I dreamed up but never had the time to personally implement. I can write more. I can read more small blogs by real humans with real opinions. I'm learning more about networking and selfhosting, topics I never had much time for because I spent my little free time on coding projects. And I will probably also get back into game development since that's where creativity and expression, as opposed to implementation, really shines, and that's something that I don't see AI taking away from us very soon.

    As for the economical impact, well, lol lmao we'll have to cross that bridge when we get there. I just think that personally by the time I myself am affected by this problem, we have a global crisis anyway so it's not really like I can personally prepare for it.

  • deterministic 4 hours ago ago

    The world is changing all the time. Nothing new. And nothing compared with the 2nd world war etc.

  • JKCalhoun 13 hours ago ago

    Road trips, bike-packing, overnight hiking.

  • pif 21 hours ago ago

    > No one can predict anything.

    Nobody ever could. Accept this reality and everything will be fine.

  • muzani 21 hours ago ago

    A lot of people predicted all this. Check out Ray Dalio's analysis.

    Empires rise because of resourcefulness, education, good work ethic and humanity, effective resource allocation (low corruption), high productivity. There's a snowball effect here. These countries become stable. Stability turns them into financial centers.

    Then they get rich. There is no work ethic - cultural values reward consumption and not working, which tends to lead into things like colonization and slavery. The wealth gap increases. Wars overextend and become more cost than income.

    To catch up with lowering productivity and the habit of war for wealth, there's more debts. They hit a point where it's not possible to pay debts, so printing money becomes excessive. Excessive printing causes them to be dropped as a reserve currency. The wealth gap causes internal conflict. There's more gatekeeping. Castes grow stronger (in modern times, it could be ivy league degrees, gender, and skin color).

    All these conflicts and problems end up with weak leaders taking advantage of the situation. Eventually, it ends up in civil war or revolution/reformation.

    That's the pattern of rise and decline. It's not chaotic but rather quite predictable.

    Instability and poverty is the norm globally; the average person does not have disposable income. While Americans can afford to buy a car with cash lol. It's the US falling to the situation where they're similar to the rest of world. And place like China which are starting to feel things like disposable income and 40-hour work weeks.

    I guess just adjust your expectations. The mismatch hurts sanity.

    • ChrisMarshallNY 18 hours ago ago

      > Empires rise because of resourcefulness, education, good work ethic and humanity, effective resource allocation (low corruption), high productivity.

      If you check the history books, it looks more like ruthlessness and amorality are more reliable predictors.

  • khaledh 21 hours ago ago

    I believe we (humankind) have been transitioning to a phase of what I call "time compression." Everything is happening too fast compared to say 40-50 years ago. You can attribute it to many things (tech in particular), but primarily it's the fact that everyone has a terminal in their hands where they can access information, people, news, etc. at a whim. It's affecting both our mental health and our collective social fabric. I think humans were not meant to be overwhelmed this way; our mental capacity hasn't increased, but the stimuli have increased by orders of magnitude.

    I don't have a solution to this problem. But one thing I've been trying is to immerse myself in a hobby I enjoy, and ignore most of the noise around me. I closed most of my social network accounts 9 years ago, and it has improved my mental health significantly. I still read the news, but I skim the headlines and go back to what I was doing. Yes, it does affect me, but I try to minimize its impact and focus on things that compensate their effect.

    There's no silver bullet. Just know that you're not alone. Unfortunately time compression is here to stay (and it will probably get worse), and those of us who fight it back will hopefully stay sane.

  • mgarfias 13 hours ago ago

    AI: I use it - i can keep multiple things going in parallel which seems to work well with my ADHD.

    Foreign BS: I worry a bit about my draft age kids, worry about donald rumsfeld's ghost making us go back to nation building again.

    Enshitification: well, I've thrown my ios26 powered phone a few times, its a constant source of ire. I long for something better to come along.

    overall, I just play with my dogs, lift heavy things, and just keep my head down. Last night the wife broke the tractor and I had to improvise a fix - which entailed using the MIG welder. I went to sleep happy.

  • RGamma 21 hours ago ago

    Absurdism and appreciating the small things. Also, media hygiene.

  • davidguetta 20 hours ago ago

    - AI will not replace human attention / domain expertise for a long time

    - International conflicts do not impact you at all

    - Human systems are anti fragile (they get stronger with challenges). Trump migh actually reinforce Europe by antagonize it.

    - Stock market doesn't matter if you own a farm (methaphorically and practically).

    - Rights are eroding some places but also increasing other places (lgbt rights have been generally on the rise in the past 10 years)

    - in general the quality of life EVERYWHERE (except the middle class of developped countries) has WILDLY improved in the past years: medical access / water access / education access has increased in most countries.

    You are what you feed yourself..

    - feed yourself with more positive news

    - learn to ignore what doesn't impact you or you can't control (stoicism)

  • AnimalMuppet 6 hours ago ago

    I'm a Christian. That changes several things for me.

    Despite all the mess, I believe that God is ultimately in control. (Yeah, I hear you say, "Sure doesn't look like it!" And you're right, it doesn't. And yet, how would you expect a world in rebellion against God to look? Do you expect it to be peaceful, running smoothly? I don't.) This world is crazy, and we're making it crazier. But I believe that God is there, limiting the craziness.

    I believe that this life is not all there is for me. I don't have to have everything work out perfectly for me here, because this isn't all that I get. If war comes, if I get killed, I'm not cheated out of my one chance to live. I get another.

    I believe that God cares about what happens to me. (This does not mean that everything works out perfectly for me! My life has had issues, a couple of them pretty major. Still, I trust Him, not to give me a perfect life, but to do good to me.

    But a bunch of you aren't Christians. Well, if what you just read appeals to you, you can come and get it. But if not:

    Life is still pretty good. I'm enjoying walking. (I had foot surgery three months ago. The days when I can walk without pain are nice.) I can't fix all that out there, but I can speak encouragement and, hopefully, wisdom into the lives of people close to me. I have a wife who loves me. We laugh a lot together. Yeah, there's a whole lot of crazy that I can't do anything about, but life is still pretty good.

  • kardianos 21 hours ago ago

    Ask yourself: could I be wrong? In other words, be humble. Maybe the world is getting better, but in your frame of mind, it is getting worse.

    For AI: none know the future. The future you thought you saw before was an illusion, as it always is. So be humble, and take things a day at a time.

    For Politics: Maybe the US and the US administration isn't the bad guys. Maybe the bad guys sent the murdering dictators cash, and maybe the good guys are taking them out, giving actual democracy and the people a chance. Consider you could be wrong. Be humble.

    For Tech in general: choose agency. Take one area where you can try to build or use things which you don't think is slop and is good. Build, use, or support that. Ignore the slop and let it rot. You don't need to control the world. You just need to control you. You are limited. Be humble.

  • gas9S9zw3P9c 21 hours ago ago

    It's the same as it has always been, the only difference is that you are being bombarded with these issues because you are terminally online and use social media while previously you were blissfully ignorant. The solution is to touch grass and stop worrying about things outside of your control.

  • pointlessone 18 hours ago ago

    > How are you all staying sane?

    Making some bold assumptions, eh?

    But more seriously, you can do very little about most of the things listed. Do that little and leave the rest behind.

    Tune out of news. Find sources of news that are relevant to you immediately. Like your local community, city council news, your employer, that sort of things. You can’t do anything about war in Iran or wherever, it’s not actionable, stop worrying about it, stop following the news.

    Be more offline. Go for walks. Read paper books. Listen to music, preferrably not streamed. Meet real people. Like, talk to a stranger at a coffee shop shop or in a park.

  • valthera 20 hours ago ago

    All this and I'm just hoping that I will get a good job finally because of all this somehow

  • cs02rm0 21 hours ago ago

    I'm not, just rolling with it.

  • valthera 20 hours ago ago

    All this and I'm just thinking how I might finally get a good job somewhere

  • ivanvoid 21 hours ago ago

    real answer is touching grass

    • pendenthistory 21 hours ago ago

      Ain't no grass in february. Sorry, march. It's march already?

  • iso1631 21 hours ago ago

    I assume previous generations had similar feelings with the looming threat of nuclear annihilation for 30 years. I came of age in that wonderful time between the fall of the Berlin Wall and 9/11. It feels that was an unusual period of time without major threat - however still had the messes of the balkans, terrorists blowing up kids in my home town,

    A couple of wise words. One from decades ago:

    Que será, será Whatever will be, will be The future's not ours to see Que será, será What will be, will be

    And of course one from more recent times

    Accept certain inalienable truths: prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too will get old-- and when you do, you'll fantasize that when you were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders

    • Havoc 20 hours ago ago

      > I assume previous generations had similar feelings with the looming threat of nuclear annihilation for 30 years.

      The threats yea, but I don’t think this sense of exponential acceleration was the same

    • impomura 20 hours ago ago

      >prices will rise, politicians will philander, you too will get old-- and when you do, you'll fantasize that when you were young prices were reasonable, politicians were noble and children respected their elders

      I think I get what you mean but personally "in the end you'll be too retarded or numb to grasp reality" isn't really comforting

  • intended 21 hours ago ago

    No one has a clear idea about what’s going on, especially with AI. I’ve spoken to a glut of people at this point, consumed months of content from leaders to influencers and used it myself.

    Currently Singularity fears, AI factories, Vibe coding productivity are super positioned with unthinking hallucinations, vibe disasters, ghost productivity and cognitive debt.

    “Nothing changes in my life if GenAI disappears tomorrow” coexists with “I’m wildly productive and having the best time of my life.”

    I’ve heard of negative productive gains, 15% faster search times, to 2x productivity and an increase in new project starts.

    I think the bull case for AI is wrong, and I have not yet seen a process that will work with the quality and process control expected of assembly lines.

    You hear hints of it, or major headlines, which don’t pan out.

    Recently LLMs were used to generate financial models, and they looked like they worked.

    Except they got the historical wrong and made mistakes humans would not.

    Many claims do not survive scrutiny. Except for the new project starts.

    The best analogy I can share for this moment is to talk about sketching or pottery.

    AI gets a master, with the right workflow, to a rough sketch or rough state quickly.

    Then the master has enough experience and skill to know if the foundations are solid, and what to discard to get to a final working vase.

    Something that can actually hold water, doesn’t have holes in the back or a stem which is blocked, or is made of paper.

  • tcaxle 20 hours ago ago

    This is a very understandable way to feel, but I promise you the world is not quite so close to destruction as you might feel, though that isn't to say the risks aren't real and worth counter-acting. The goal is to ensure that you are well-grounded within yourself and avoid becoming overwhelmed but at the same time to stay engaged with the things that matter; total disengagement is not the way.

    Stepping away from rolling news and/or social media of the scrolly-scrolly variety is probably a good step 1!

    Next, try finding something you can work towards that exists outside of the spaces that are causing this stress: e.g. take up running, practice a musical instrument, or read some fiction. In short: touch grass.

    Finally, when you feel calm: identify issues in the middle of the Venn diagram of things you care about and things you have the ability to affect. If this is, e.g. US domestic politics, then maybe join an activist group or attend some protests about issues close to your heart; if it's the genocide in Palestine, then there are many international solidarity campaigns you can get involved with; if it's the environmental poly-crisis then look at ways you might be able to leverage small efforts for big payoffs like joining a campaign for walk-able neighbourhoods or donating money to legal foundations looking to hold the people most responsible for these crises to account. If you want to find the power to affect change, you must join with others in an organised fashion; relying on individual action and market forces sure as shit hasn't helped yet and I doubt that will change anytime soon.

  • elzbardico 20 hours ago ago

    Go to anthropic/google/openai/xai/whatever website. Navigate to Jobs. There are still a motherfucking load of openings for software engineers? If yes, go back to work and stop worrying.

    Oh, but tomorrow....

    Tomorrow is another day, you worry about it when it comes.

  • jckahn 21 hours ago ago

    Personally I just adopt an attitude of utter nihilism and fatalism. I remind myself regularly that I'm going to die someday, like a mantra. Everything I think or care about won't ultimately matter. The only rational choice is to try and make the most of today.

  • thesamethrowawa 21 hours ago ago

    I feel very similar. I'm not sure if it's all the issues you listed, or just being at a specific point in my life and career, or a combination of both. Nothing is enjoyable to me anymore, and I find there is nothing I am looking forward to. There seems to be so much evidence for the "everything is getting worse" line of thinking, food prices, housing prices, wealth distribution, the job market. I think all the commentors noting "it doesn't affect you, go talk a walk" are really missing the point. On one hand I feel privileged and lucky with what I have materially but on the other, a really deep feeling of despair that is getting harder to hide day to day.

  • dntrshnthngjxct 20 hours ago ago

    I have plans.

  • eudamoniac 17 hours ago ago

    Just ignore it and go outside, unironically. I finish work, shut the laptop, and go work in the garden or lift weights. Venezuela is not affecting my foxgloves nor my deadlifts.

  • RickJWagner 18 hours ago ago

    First, study history. Our generation is downright lucky. This is the best time to be alive, truly.

    Then avoid the news and politics. Live your own life, and enjoy analog hobbies.

  • JamesTRexx 21 hours ago ago

    Define sane.

  • lostmsu 18 hours ago ago

    If your sanity depends on things going the way you expected them, you were never sane in the first place.

  • journal 13 hours ago ago

    That's what happens when you have to hit the ground running. Welcome to USA.

  • intended 21 hours ago ago

    I’m deep into nihilistic territory myself, but here’s one neat trick to turn nihilism on itself!

    Jokes aside, the fact is that humanity will always find ways to disappoint you.

    So the moment you completely give up hope, humanity will find a way to prove your doomsaying wrong.

    For AI and policy, the questions I found that was useful to ask smart people is “what are you sure of / 100% confident about.” If it’s people who have a tendency to not be taken away by hype you can add “confident about In a practical, ‘I am betting money on this’ way“.

    Hopefully that helps extract signal from noise for you.

  • gmuslera 21 hours ago ago

    Popcorn

  • lloydatkinson 21 hours ago ago

    Off topic? By a throwaway account AI slopper no less.

    • flowerthoughts 17 hours ago ago

      I saw a similar issue on r/PrivatEkonomi (Swedish.) Two doomerism post with subject somewhat adapted to the forum at hand. The two users were young accounts with private comment history.

      Someone is definitely on a propaganda tour trying to seed negative sentiment.

  • nudpiedo 21 hours ago ago

    All the issues you mention are about uncertainty.

    Uncertainty is one of the largest perceived threats by the human brain, it’s normal you feel it like a threat, it can even cause you anxiety and force you to take severe and unnecessary decisions. If that’s the case talk to a mental health professional because it is not an issue.

    However if mental health is not an issue, try some of the many techniques that are there on how to handle uncertainty psychologically, you may start with stoicism (a modern book is fine) and with distribution of risk only of the threats that are an actual problem to you and you have any little of control over them

  • Markoff 20 hours ago ago

    maybe stay away from news if they make you anxious?

  • lyfeninja 21 hours ago ago

    Focus on what you can control. Detach from social media. Get outside. Spend time with the people in your life who matter. We live in an information age where we know everything immediately, but it's a blessing and a curse.

    • pona-a 21 hours ago ago

      Tried that in 2022 before the war broke out. Didn't take long for reality to catch up with me, sitting in a neighbor's cellar hearing missile whooshing past up above.

      Ignorance is a very costly commodity.

      • necovek 21 hours ago ago

        Even that will pass (for most — for some, it might simply "end" :/). I've been sitting in a cellar and bomb shelters in 1999 myself: yes, your struggle is worse and longer, but it will pass. The information you need today is very limited, so focus on that (what will be hit next; are there potential targets around you at all times, where do you get water/food in case systems break down, etc).

        We are all victims of this weirdo game of global, live Risk, and unless you commit yourself to politics, really not much you can do here either: survive and focus on what's next!

        Stay safe and good luck!

      • RGamma 21 hours ago ago

        You couldn't have prevented the reason why the missiles are flying in the first place though. Of course a realistic sense of alert still helps, but it's lunatics in Russia running the show, not you or anybody else you know.

        This is a time and target where "them-ing" is appropriate.

  • 0xCE0 a day ago ago

    "Chaos isn't a pit, chaos is a ladder."

  • HSO 21 hours ago ago

    Go hiking.

    And drop the "the". It`s cleaner.

  • kypro 9 hours ago ago

    Depends what you mean by sane I guess...

    I've been thinking (and worrying) about AI for decades so this last few years have been extremely hard for me. A lot of the stuff I worried about when deep neutral networks first began to work are now beginning to play out and if anything timelines are significantly shorter than I imagined they would be.

    I've believed since around 2012 that the most likely way I'd die is from AI so this isn't new, but until around 2021 the error bars have always been quite large. In the last few years that error has rapidly compressed to the point at which I'd now very confidently bet we're all doomed (were there any point in me betting on that). I have few uncertainties left in the core trends of how things will progress from here, and the uncertainties that I do have are really more about how quickly doom will come and how bad the ending will be.

    People who know me IRL kinda get why I'm freaking out right now because stuff I said that sounded insanely stupid before are actually now starting to materialise. But online I keep having to decide if I'm okay with sounding insane on this given how important it is and how concerned I am. I think the right thing to do is to sound insane and at least try to convince people we need to change course ASAP because this will not end well. Plus I'm having nightmares constantly at the moment so I'm really feeling the need to just express myself.

    The number of serious risks we now face are almost endless and the probabilities that they occur are relatively high for the most part. Even most people with vested interests in the AI industry who are actively building these systems will give high single digits to low double digit odds that they're helping to build a technology that will kill us all lmao. And more concerningly most them are either lying or genuinely uneducated on why alignment is hard. The lunacy of the situation we're in is astounding.

    So how am I staying sane? At this point I've more or less come to terms with what's coming. I'm just worried about those I love because I don't want them to suffer. It's frustrating so few seem to be thinking beyond risks like job losses right now and that's making me feel a bit insane at the moment tbh. I suspect people will catch up within the next 12-24 months.

    As for the geopolitical uncertainty, that's always been a thing. 9/11 felt far more scary than anything that's happening today imo. The full scale invasion of Ukraine was significant, but hardly unexpected or even unprecedented.

  • dragonelite 20 hours ago ago

    You're just feeling what the rest of non western world has felt for centuries. Welcome to the club.

  • adyashakti a day ago ago

    the beach. mantras. tapasya.

  • dwoldrich 20 hours ago ago

    If you open yourself to be cranked up, you'll get cranked up constantly.

    Pollution is real - a legit problem and a worthy cause, but the anthropogenic global warming thing was always just wealth extraction by elites. They cranked up at least three generations scaring them half to death and making them crazy and depressed and now, oh ... it was nothing, we need more power for AI data centers, you can go sod off now. No one can claim otherwise: the models' predictions never panned out and the data was always cooked for $$$. The trash we sort into the blue bin goes to the same landfill as the grey bin.

    Almost all the latest crazes are like that. How fast did we go from Covid-to-Ukraine-to-destroying Tesla dealerships? Just don't get cranked up, it is all intended to stun you. Live your life. Focus. The people doing this to you need you to be unproductive and vulnerable.

    I said "almost all" because the wars are real. The isolation and despair brought on during Covid lockdowns was real, oxes were gored, people were emotionally stunted and scarred. Covid itself likely came out of a lab, and it seemed to be designed to kill the elders.

    Regarding the real harms that happened to real people and myself, I keep them separate as lists in my mind, I try to remember to hold scoundrels accountable if I am ever personally given that honor, and I try not to go to bed angry and to forgive people.

    "Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry, and do not give the devil a foothold."

    • antonvs 20 hours ago ago

      > “anthropogenic global warming thing was always just wealth extraction by elites. They cranked up at least three generations scaring them half to death and making them crazy and depressed and now, oh ... it was nothing, we need more power for AI data centers”

      This kind of conspiracy-driven anti-science crankery is part of the problem.

      The science behind anthropogenic global warming hasn’t changed. Since you’re clearly unfamiliar with it, here’s a good introduction with many references: https://royalsociety.org/news-resources/projects/climate-cha...

      The group of people pushing large AI data centers have essentially no overlap with the people who raising the alarm about climate change based on very strong scientific evidence.

      > Covid itself likely came out of a lab, and it seemed to be designed to kill the elders.

      More crankery.

      Apparently some people deal with the concerns raised by OP by retreating into weird fantasies that give them an illusion of understanding or control. It’s a mild form of insanity.