“Our fight against human trafficking is one of the great human rights causes of our time, and the United States will continue to lead it — in partnership with you. The change we seek will not come easy, but we can draw strength from the movements of the past. For we know that every life saved — in the words of that great Proclamation — is 'an act of justice'; worthy of 'the considerate judgment of mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God'."
— President Barack Obama
It is estimated that more than 20 million men, women and children around the world are victims of human trafficking. The United States is a source, transit and destination country for some of these men, women and children — both U.S. citizens and foreign nationals — who are subjected to the injustices of human trafficking, including forced labor, debt bondage, involuntary servitude, and sex trafficking. Trafficking in persons can occur in both lawful and illicit industries or markets, including in brothels, massage parlors, street prostitution, hotel services, hospitality, agriculture, manufacturing, janitorial services, construction, health and elder care, and domestic service, among others.
What are you trying to convey? That concentration camps are good, actually? Or that people only feel otherwise today because they're liberal hypocrites?
My read of this account is that they're deeply conservative, and like to take every example of a terrible thing the current administration is doing as an opportunity to "both sides" it in order to attempt to normalize how bad the current administration is.
They have never condemned the current administration for doing this without also "whatabouting" the Obama administration.
So to answer your question, they will say they're doing the "liberal hypocrites" song and dance, but in reality they're working towards a case that "Actually concentration camps aren't that bad, because 'both sides' do them."
In practice most people actually on the left can recognize that the Obama administration (and the Bush, Clinton and Biden administrations) were deeply flawed, but they are still lightyears better than the Concentration camps of the current administration which are detaining children and separating them from their families based on which side of a line they fall on, on a map (or more likely, the color of their skin).
It's funny because Rick's examples always what-about the Obama administration which makes it likely a dog-whistle.
Rick, if you want to beat the allegations, please condemn the current administration for their actions if you think they're wrong. We already know what you think about Obama, so you can just call out the current administration without mentioning other administrations.
I am glad you feel that _I_ have a high level of compassion for my fellow humans.
If someone posts "but Obama" in response to a bunch of -hand written letters from children in what I consider to be a literal concentration camp- then I'm going to think that person has transcended a lack of "integrity" or "critical thinking skills" into becoming a literal monster.
This is the account's M.O. You can see my response above, but basically as far as I can tell they're deeply conservative, and they try and position themselves as a like "rational centrist" by doing this "both sides" Dance.
The giveaway that you've noticed, is they never actually condemn the existing administration without also comparing them to Obama (and for reasons beyond me, specifically Obama and not say, Biden, Bush 1/2, Clinton).
“Our fight against human trafficking is one of the great human rights causes of our time, and the United States will continue to lead it — in partnership with you. The change we seek will not come easy, but we can draw strength from the movements of the past. For we know that every life saved — in the words of that great Proclamation — is 'an act of justice'; worthy of 'the considerate judgment of mankind, and the gracious favor of Almighty God'." — President Barack Obama
It is estimated that more than 20 million men, women and children around the world are victims of human trafficking. The United States is a source, transit and destination country for some of these men, women and children — both U.S. citizens and foreign nationals — who are subjected to the injustices of human trafficking, including forced labor, debt bondage, involuntary servitude, and sex trafficking. Trafficking in persons can occur in both lawful and illicit industries or markets, including in brothels, massage parlors, street prostitution, hotel services, hospitality, agriculture, manufacturing, janitorial services, construction, health and elder care, and domestic service, among others.
White House Archives from Obama era
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/node/230831
A lot of them were trafficked by Epstein. Release the files or no?
It is indeed a problem: the US gov itself trafficked half a million folks or so in 2025.
What are you trying to convey? That concentration camps are good, actually? Or that people only feel otherwise today because they're liberal hypocrites?
My read of this account is that they're deeply conservative, and like to take every example of a terrible thing the current administration is doing as an opportunity to "both sides" it in order to attempt to normalize how bad the current administration is.
They have never condemned the current administration for doing this without also "whatabouting" the Obama administration.
So to answer your question, they will say they're doing the "liberal hypocrites" song and dance, but in reality they're working towards a case that "Actually concentration camps aren't that bad, because 'both sides' do them."
In practice most people actually on the left can recognize that the Obama administration (and the Bush, Clinton and Biden administrations) were deeply flawed, but they are still lightyears better than the Concentration camps of the current administration which are detaining children and separating them from their families based on which side of a line they fall on, on a map (or more likely, the color of their skin).
It's funny because Rick's examples always what-about the Obama administration which makes it likely a dog-whistle.
Rick, if you want to beat the allegations, please condemn the current administration for their actions if you think they're wrong. We already know what you think about Obama, so you can just call out the current administration without mentioning other administrations.
More of the latter.
If someone condemns Trump and condemns Obama, I believe them and think that they have a high level of compassion for immigrants.
If someone is ok with Obama and ok with Trump, I’m good with them and believe they are someone that is protective of national borders.
If someone condemns Trump but is ok with Obama, I think they have either no integrity or no critical thinking skills.
I am glad you feel that _I_ have a high level of compassion for my fellow humans.
If someone posts "but Obama" in response to a bunch of -hand written letters from children in what I consider to be a literal concentration camp- then I'm going to think that person has transcended a lack of "integrity" or "critical thinking skills" into becoming a literal monster.
This is the account's M.O. You can see my response above, but basically as far as I can tell they're deeply conservative, and they try and position themselves as a like "rational centrist" by doing this "both sides" Dance.
The giveaway that you've noticed, is they never actually condemn the existing administration without also comparing them to Obama (and for reasons beyond me, specifically Obama and not say, Biden, Bush 1/2, Clinton).
Here he is 36 days ago doing the same thing: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=RickJWagner&next=466...
... and if you can't differentiate between the badness of Obama and the badness of Trump you have neither integrity nor critical thinking skills.