I built TinyIce as a vibing side project to spin up an Icecast2-compatible server in seconds, because I was frustrated with IceCast. One static Go binary, embedded assets, auto-generated creds on first run, built-in ACME (Let’s Encrypt), relays, multi-tenant admins, Prometheus metrics, and a modern web UI.
It's a very nice project. Me and some friends toyed with the idea of running our own IceCast server, as a way to introducing new music to each other. We eventually gave up, exactly due to frustrations with setting up and running IceCast.
I think it's really neat how you managed to include ACME, a nice UI and even the Prometheus metrics.
Get onto Music League for introducing new music to each other.
Someone setup a league at work, and it's been one of the best (albeit unintentional) team bonding exercises I've ever come across (I've not come across many). So much so that three people who have left the company still participate in the league.
It unfortunately it's linked to and requires the use of Spotify, for those who are ideologically opposed (which also means I can't submit King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard songs anymore).
When I was still working at a large corporation, I built an internal "social" radio station using Icecast2. I'd broadcast my favorite music like Pink Floyd and Radiohead to my coworkers via a simple Rails web app, and we'd chat about music, work, and everything in between on the same web app. That was a long time ago, and I no longer have that environment (a big company with lots of similar-minded young people), but live-streaming music with friends will always be a soft spot in my heart.
I tried streaming with icecast2 during pandemic and always got dropped connections in tens of minutes. It drove me mad. And it's impossible to detect in advance, receivers skip for seconds till new connection is made. From packet captures it appears as dropped ack packets. It was https so copyright filters are unlikely.
Are there different solutions, different protocols, ideally supported by browser in some simple manner? Is streaming over websocket possible?
I am planning to add other restreaming options such as RTMP or HLS. So far, my test stream is running for more than 10h and did not have a single dropout.
Running my own icecast2 server, I recently ran into a problem[1] where TLS connections don't shut down properly. It's actually a problem with the libshout client library's poor TLS support. I posted a patch to that issue, but it's hard to tell if there's anyone still looking at issues or actively developing the project over there. The last update to libshout was 3 years ago, and it was just a documentation cleanup.
And, more importantly, to keep misconfigured network appliances from treating every resource on the web as HTML and trying to shove ads into it, breaking audio players.
I built TinyIce as a vibing side project to spin up an Icecast2-compatible server in seconds, because I was frustrated with IceCast. One static Go binary, embedded assets, auto-generated creds on first run, built-in ACME (Let’s Encrypt), relays, multi-tenant admins, Prometheus metrics, and a modern web UI.
It's a very nice project. Me and some friends toyed with the idea of running our own IceCast server, as a way to introducing new music to each other. We eventually gave up, exactly due to frustrations with setting up and running IceCast.
I think it's really neat how you managed to include ACME, a nice UI and even the Prometheus metrics.
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Get onto Music League for introducing new music to each other.
Someone setup a league at work, and it's been one of the best (albeit unintentional) team bonding exercises I've ever come across (I've not come across many). So much so that three people who have left the company still participate in the league.
It unfortunately it's linked to and requires the use of Spotify, for those who are ideologically opposed (which also means I can't submit King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard songs anymore).
Thank you so much. I just added a lot of new features and polished some old ones now.
What was frustrating Icecast?
XML-based big configuration, confusing for new users. No "run a single binary" and that's it :)
Here is a little writeup on medium.com: https://syso42.medium.com/tinyice-how-i-created-a-single-bin...
Very cool project!
When I was still working at a large corporation, I built an internal "social" radio station using Icecast2. I'd broadcast my favorite music like Pink Floyd and Radiohead to my coworkers via a simple Rails web app, and we'd chat about music, work, and everything in between on the same web app. That was a long time ago, and I no longer have that environment (a big company with lots of similar-minded young people), but live-streaming music with friends will always be a soft spot in my heart.
I tried streaming with icecast2 during pandemic and always got dropped connections in tens of minutes. It drove me mad. And it's impossible to detect in advance, receivers skip for seconds till new connection is made. From packet captures it appears as dropped ack packets. It was https so copyright filters are unlikely.
Are there different solutions, different protocols, ideally supported by browser in some simple manner? Is streaming over websocket possible?
I am planning to add other restreaming options such as RTMP or HLS. So far, my test stream is running for more than 10h and did not have a single dropout.
Thanks for sharing! Would love to see configurable ACME settings for use in a homelab where I'm already running my own ACME CA.
thank you for trying. I have added it in the latest release.
I've just added better docs, the CI/CD pipeline is now releasing binaries for all major platforms and custom ACME URLs are supported.
The HTTPS is still a problem for some streaming music sites. e.g. streamingsoundtracks.com runs HTTP.
Running my own icecast2 server, I recently ran into a problem[1] where TLS connections don't shut down properly. It's actually a problem with the libshout client library's poor TLS support. I posted a patch to that issue, but it's hard to tell if there's anyone still looking at issues or actively developing the project over there. The last update to libshout was 3 years ago, and it was just a documentation cleanup.
1: https://gitlab.xiph.org/xiph/icecast-libshout/-/issues/2337
This should be working in tinyice without issues. Feel free to test it and if the problem is also present, I will fix it.
why this is a problem? Streaming over Http just works - even on clients from 1999 like Winamp.
Why would you military grade encrypt radio service or static site anyway?
To keep your ISP from slipping ads into the audio stream? To keep RIAA from finding out what you're streaming and suing you into oblivion?
And, more importantly, to keep misconfigured network appliances from treating every resource on the web as HTML and trying to shove ads into it, breaking audio players.
Because some browsers get annoyed and put up lots of alerts if they can't make a https connection
Rusty, of SomaFM fame? What a blessing to see you here! Mega fan, proud SomaFM mug owner from Australia :)
It doesn’t “just” work, I just implemented a streaming radio client and the http streams were a nightmare
A static site? Because any hop can inject arbitrary code which your browser will then execute.
TLS doesn’t just offer confidentiality, it also offers integrity.
Dose it work behind a reverse proxy such as nginx? Especially for the m3u8 files?
That should work! :) Just added m3u/m3u8 support.
Icecast still exists? Blast from the past. Does it work reliably yet?
I've had years of uptime with icecast at home.
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