> Musk told the World Economic Forum in Davos last week that Tesla would begin selling humanoids by the end of 2027: "I think everyone on earth is going to have one and want one."
Sure. He also thought there would be a million Tesla robotaxis on the road by 2020:
My favorite is taking deposits for the roadster since 2017:
> A prototype of the Roadster was shown in a surprise moment…with a tease of availability in the year 2020
> In July 2020, during the 2020 second quarter financial results conference call, Musk stated that Tesla plans to tentatively build the Roadster in California and production would be in the next 12 to 18 months, indicating mid to late 2021.[33]
> In January 2021, Musk tweeted that production would be delayed until 2022. He commented that in 2021, the company would finish engineering the Roadster with the goal of having a "candidate design drivable late summer".[34] In September 2021, Musk said that production would be delayed until 2023.[35] Musk further confirmed the 2023 target at the 2021 shareholder's meeting in October,[36] which was then changed to 2024 at the May 2023 shareholder's meeting.[37] In February 2024, the production date was changed to 2025.[38]
Master con man play. Every. Single. Time. There’s blood in the water, he knows to drop outlandish forward claims just to keep the stock from dipping, his legion takes the bait. Justifies why it’s good the company is bad at x,y,z because the technology is “so good”.
Meanwhile, what does ship is always broken and poor quality.
It might be wordsmithing to skirt around "robot" as a fully autonomous entity. Much like their FSD, I expect they aren't going to deliver full autonomy anytime soon.
I remember in 2015 saying on HN Teslas will never truly drive themselves and was laughed off this site. Still not there a decade later and now Musk says they are moving on to humanoid robots, another thing that’s never going to really happen.
99% of my driving is FSD. Yea it took a while but with FSD 14 it's finally here. No other consumer self-driving is close. If you saw what this thing could do you would never not use it. It's like driving without a seatbelt now. You would never not want to be driving without it.
I had a former coworker who loved letting the FSD drive him places. He used to love driving people for lunch, ignoring all the crazy red flags like the car's inability to consistently detect other vehicles on the road around it or stay in the (clearly marked) lanes.
Then one day on the way home from work FSD nearly killed him.
My Tesla drove me to the supermarket today. I pushed a button and it took me there and parked in a good spot. It drove me to another state this summer. It works and works very well. Not sure if you’re up to date here because the full self driving is incredible. Nobody is even close to touching Tesla here, they’re 5 years ahead of any other car maker in this respect.
If by that you mean in terms of fatalities, then you would be accurate. Tesla advanced-driving systems have more recorded fatalities than the entire rest of the automotive industry worldwide combined.
It does not matter how you dice up the statistics (i.e., miles driven, risk levels of the drivers, by year, by location, etc). Tesla AP and FSD are the most dangerous driving systems on the road.
And, of course, the stock price is up. I guess Tesla can keep skating above reality for more years.
Problem with that is that it makes a catastrophic price collapse more likely.
I suspect the people who matter will get their $1T payday first
> Musk told the World Economic Forum in Davos last week that Tesla would begin selling humanoids by the end of 2027: "I think everyone on earth is going to have one and want one."
Sure. He also thought there would be a million Tesla robotaxis on the road by 2020:
https://www.thedrive.com/news/38129/elon-musk-promised-1-mil...
My favorite is taking deposits for the roadster since 2017:
> A prototype of the Roadster was shown in a surprise moment…with a tease of availability in the year 2020
> In July 2020, during the 2020 second quarter financial results conference call, Musk stated that Tesla plans to tentatively build the Roadster in California and production would be in the next 12 to 18 months, indicating mid to late 2021.[33]
> In January 2021, Musk tweeted that production would be delayed until 2022. He commented that in 2021, the company would finish engineering the Roadster with the goal of having a "candidate design drivable late summer".[34] In September 2021, Musk said that production would be delayed until 2023.[35] Musk further confirmed the 2023 target at the 2021 shareholder's meeting in October,[36] which was then changed to 2024 at the May 2023 shareholder's meeting.[37] In February 2024, the production date was changed to 2025.[38]
Wasn’t aware of this.
Master con man play. Every. Single. Time. There’s blood in the water, he knows to drop outlandish forward claims just to keep the stock from dipping, his legion takes the bait. Justifies why it’s good the company is bad at x,y,z because the technology is “so good”.
Meanwhile, what does ship is always broken and poor quality.
Anyone else concerned that "humanoid" is not followed by "robot" in that quote?
It might be wordsmithing to skirt around "robot" as a fully autonomous entity. Much like their FSD, I expect they aren't going to deliver full autonomy anytime soon.
I remember in 2015 saying on HN Teslas will never truly drive themselves and was laughed off this site. Still not there a decade later and now Musk says they are moving on to humanoid robots, another thing that’s never going to really happen.
99% of my driving is FSD. Yea it took a while but with FSD 14 it's finally here. No other consumer self-driving is close. If you saw what this thing could do you would never not use it. It's like driving without a seatbelt now. You would never not want to be driving without it.
Are you sleeping in the back of the car while it drives itself, or is it still a party trick?
the remaining 1% when it drives you straight into crash barrier is sort of important
I had a former coworker who loved letting the FSD drive him places. He used to love driving people for lunch, ignoring all the crazy red flags like the car's inability to consistently detect other vehicles on the road around it or stay in the (clearly marked) lanes.
Then one day on the way home from work FSD nearly killed him.
He survived, but he will be crippled for life.
It stops working if a little dirt gets on the camera.
Be careful and dont drink the kool aid...all from 2025...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EhDTlYbn910
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3wtJhOj5Ouk
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CqazhMw205c
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/McX19KSWmbU
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p5QrtF2VYwE
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2na2I0E55-o
https://youtu.be/JoXAUfF029I
I don't need to drink anything. Having two drivers is better than one.
Honestly, I'm done trying to convince FSD deniers. You'll be in an autonomous car full-time in 10 years, no matter what, so who cares?
We're not really "denying" anything when we are agreeing with reality..
Just ten more years! Take my money!
My Tesla drove me to the supermarket today. I pushed a button and it took me there and parked in a good spot. It drove me to another state this summer. It works and works very well. Not sure if you’re up to date here because the full self driving is incredible. Nobody is even close to touching Tesla here, they’re 5 years ahead of any other car maker in this respect.
If by that you mean in terms of fatalities, then you would be accurate. Tesla advanced-driving systems have more recorded fatalities than the entire rest of the automotive industry worldwide combined.
It does not matter how you dice up the statistics (i.e., miles driven, risk levels of the drivers, by year, by location, etc). Tesla AP and FSD are the most dangerous driving systems on the road.
Waymo is better
Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46801851