Musk Seeks Up to $134B Damages from OpenAI, Microsoft

(bloomberg.com)

28 points | by SanjayMehta 15 hours ago ago

11 comments

  • tim333 5 hours ago ago

    Altman's tweet on the subject seems to present some factual difficulties for Musk https://x.com/sama/status/2012271781394989327

  • KellyCriterion 9 hours ago ago

    Well, the US legal system is that broken, I see him with high chances of winning, somehow? (like "we give you 50% of what you are asking for but shut up now")

  • exikyut 9 hours ago ago
  • rand846633 12 hours ago ago

    If you are confident that you can reach arbitrary judgments in about 1% of all cases, maybe via corruption, political influence or just random arbitrariness of court decisions, would this mean the expected value of this suit is approximately 1.3B usd minus ~10m legal fees?

    • jondwillis 12 hours ago ago

      Well there’s potential counter suit or court order to pay legal fees of the other party that might affect the profitability. I am not a lawyer

    • refurb 9 hours ago ago

      Expected value calculations are terrible unless applied to a situation of hundreds or thousands of outcomes.

      Otherwise you be stupid NOT to buy a lottery ticket each week.

      • moralestapia 9 hours ago ago

        The expected value of a lottery ticket is lower than its nominal value, for obvious reasons.

        I agree with your point, though.

    • nutjob2 10 hours ago ago

      No because penalty amounts are routinely slashed to a tiny fraction of the original claim.

    • fakedang 12 hours ago ago

      Yes and in this case, it's not even that much an arbitrary judgement. I don't like the man but Musk has far more standing to go against Microsoft and OpenAI because the shenanigans they pulled were just that much more brazen.

      • otterley 10 hours ago ago

        IAAL (not legal advice) and find your comment confusing: first, because standing is a question of whether you can even have your complaint heard by a court; and second, because “brazenness” doesn’t necessarily make a case stronger.

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