While there's more than enough room to criticize both agencies these days, and if I did work for one of them I'd be retaining personal legal representation, doxxing people is not the answer. Sure, if some bad actors can be sued/prosecuted, that's not a bad thing per se.
But we're already living in a world where US Senators and Supreme Court Justices have had to have security provided because of death threats from both sides of the aisle. We don't need to be encouraging vigilantes. No side is so noble that people can't do evil in its name.
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If... if... We didn’t love freedom enough." --Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Gulag Archipelago
We learn from history. These people don't get to terrorize our communities without pushback; no amount of finger-wagging will change this. (To be clear, I do not advocate violence, death threats, etc. But their little cosplay masks will not protect their anonymity. Let their friends and neighbors find out who they really are -- maybe they will feel shame for once.)
two wrongs don't make it right but just to document that ICE has been using their facial scan and plate scan apps meant to determine immigration status on non-violent protestors and then following them home (or even more creepy, leading them to the protestor's home) and calling them out by full name and details
I'd settle for the middle-ground law enforcement can't wear masks and cover their agency/badge number (or use fake plates)
Extreme powers has to come with extreme responsibility, they are heavily armed and also using their cars to ram people on purpose, they don't have to follow rules because they know no-one knows who they are
gotta love a killer on the loose - with help from the fbi, help from DHS, help from other agents ALL ON TAXPAYER DIME - helping jonathan ross run hide and go into witness protection
WHILE GETTING OVER 500K IN DONATIONS ONLINE WHICH IS ILLEGAL! DUDE SHOT AND KILLED RENEE GOOD IN COLD BLOOD IN BROAD DAYLIGHT AND IS ACCEPTING OVER 500K IN DONATIONS!!!!!
I kind of agree with you - up until the point that ICE started just shooting people in the face with zero consequences (and please don’t trot out the self-defence BS).
Let’s try your comment in 1938 Germany. Replace the word ICE with Gestapo.
ICE is behaving like slave chasers, which inspired the Gestapo. The state of your country is homegrown yanqui fuckery. Should've finished the job you started in the civil war.
> Theres zero consequences because this was completely unambiguously a justified shoot.
There's zero consequences (yet) because the federal government monopolized the evidence and refused to do either allow state authorities access or conduct a real investigation themselves despite clear indications that it was not a justified shoot, resulting in the resignation of several prosecutors in the division that would have handled such a misconduct case.
Many people have died in ICE custody as well, several so far this year, so it's not as simple as just placing yourself in their custody and then you are safe.
If ICE starts dragging your friends and neighbors out of their houses and cars and terrorizing your children at school, maybe you'll understand why she felt she had to be there.
On the contrary, this is exactly the sort of thing a prototypical hacker would do: give a massive finger to the authorities through the use of technology.
That's not what a prototypical hacker is at all. I have the benefit of being able to talk to most of the "prototypical hackers", the TMRC crowd, decades ago and being a hacker had nothing to do with sticking it to authorities. It was all about personal ingenuity and generally lacking self-discipline (from an outsider's perspective -- as people didn't refer to themselves as hackers for decades, it started as a derisive term from more "respectable" researchers).
The whole freedom-fighting hacker thing came about later, mostly from the 2600 and BBS crowd as a self-aggrandizement despite all of the laws that they were breaking: mainly related to use of telephone lines, wire & mail fraud, drug use/trafficing and age of consent violations.
You're literally trying to tell me about my own tribe and you don't have the slightest clue.
Dunno about your friends, but I imagine the original, old school MIT hackers -- the ones who lockpicked doors for fun and fought tooth and nail against any restrictions on access to computer systems -- would chuckle at an infodump like this, not clutch their pearls.
No, you need to expose them for many reasons, accountability, make it harder for them to join. You questioning this makes me think you agree with their tacticts, and it has been extremely obvious that organization is a total mess of rule breaking.
Original story (linked in TFA), and yes - incorrect use of "whistleblower". This is a data breach or hack.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/personal-details-of-thousands-...
While there's more than enough room to criticize both agencies these days, and if I did work for one of them I'd be retaining personal legal representation, doxxing people is not the answer. Sure, if some bad actors can be sued/prosecuted, that's not a bad thing per se.
But we're already living in a world where US Senators and Supreme Court Justices have had to have security provided because of death threats from both sides of the aisle. We don't need to be encouraging vigilantes. No side is so noble that people can't do evil in its name.
I’m not in favor of doxing.
But let’s be clear, it’s not a few bad apples. ICE by design is operating outside the law.
The videos are endless, people outside their homes on a walk questioned and threatened with arrest if they do not produce ID, face scanned and so on:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qbawlr/minnea...
They’ve blocked off whole neighborhoods going door to door questioning people.
Let alone the videos of drive by pepper spray, drawing their weapons on people, shoving people to the ground…
These aren’t one off events. This is everyday in Minneapolis.
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> Sure, if some bad actors can be sued/prosecuted
And if they can’t be?
"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If... if... We didn’t love freedom enough." --Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Gulag Archipelago
We learn from history. These people don't get to terrorize our communities without pushback; no amount of finger-wagging will change this. (To be clear, I do not advocate violence, death threats, etc. But their little cosplay masks will not protect their anonymity. Let their friends and neighbors find out who they really are -- maybe they will feel shame for once.)
two wrongs don't make it right but just to document that ICE has been using their facial scan and plate scan apps meant to determine immigration status on non-violent protestors and then following them home (or even more creepy, leading them to the protestor's home) and calling them out by full name and details
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/13/ice-using-private-d...
I'd settle for the middle-ground law enforcement can't wear masks and cover their agency/badge number (or use fake plates)
Extreme powers has to come with extreme responsibility, they are heavily armed and also using their cars to ram people on purpose, they don't have to follow rules because they know no-one knows who they are
Are you really bothsidings this? Really?
gotta love a killer on the loose - with help from the fbi, help from DHS, help from other agents ALL ON TAXPAYER DIME - helping jonathan ross run hide and go into witness protection
WHILE GETTING OVER 500K IN DONATIONS ONLINE WHICH IS ILLEGAL! DUDE SHOT AND KILLED RENEE GOOD IN COLD BLOOD IN BROAD DAYLIGHT AND IS ACCEPTING OVER 500K IN DONATIONS!!!!!
RIP RENEE GOOD FUCK ICE LEAK THEM ALL
HACK THE PLANET
This isn't "whistleblowing" and I hope whomever did this spends a long time in prison.
Regardless of what your feelings on ICE enforcement are...
I kind of agree with you - up until the point that ICE started just shooting people in the face with zero consequences (and please don’t trot out the self-defence BS).
Let’s try your comment in 1938 Germany. Replace the word ICE with Gestapo.
Self defense
I hate the Gestapo comparisons because they are disrespectful to the Gestapo. Say what you will about them, at least they showed their faces.
ICE is behaving like slave chasers, which inspired the Gestapo. The state of your country is homegrown yanqui fuckery. Should've finished the job you started in the civil war.
also, what on earth does this DHS slogan mean?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/13/trump-admini...
from a federal government agency heavily armed against unarmed non-violent protestors
absolutely terrifying but that's the point I guess?
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> Theres zero consequences because this was completely unambiguously a justified shoot.
There's zero consequences (yet) because the federal government monopolized the evidence and refused to do either allow state authorities access or conduct a real investigation themselves despite clear indications that it was not a justified shoot, resulting in the resignation of several prosecutors in the division that would have handled such a misconduct case.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/federal-prosecutors-resign-min...
> I'm sorry that makes you feel a certain way but stupid actions have stupid consequences.
I’m sorry this leak makes you feel a certain way, but see the above.
Many people have died in ICE custody as well, several so far this year, so it's not as simple as just placing yourself in their custody and then you are safe.
She didn't have to be there in the first place. It's not like she was just unintentionally in the middle of it. She sought out conflict with LEO.
> She didn't have to be there in the first place.
In the la-and of the free, and the ho-ome of the brave.
If ICE starts dragging your friends and neighbors out of their houses and cars and terrorizing your children at school, maybe you'll understand why she felt she had to be there.
Or else, just try applying a bit of empathy.
Bootlickers gon lick boots
On the contrary, this is exactly the sort of thing a prototypical hacker would do: give a massive finger to the authorities through the use of technology.
That's not what a prototypical hacker is at all. I have the benefit of being able to talk to most of the "prototypical hackers", the TMRC crowd, decades ago and being a hacker had nothing to do with sticking it to authorities. It was all about personal ingenuity and generally lacking self-discipline (from an outsider's perspective -- as people didn't refer to themselves as hackers for decades, it started as a derisive term from more "respectable" researchers).
The whole freedom-fighting hacker thing came about later, mostly from the 2600 and BBS crowd as a self-aggrandizement despite all of the laws that they were breaking: mainly related to use of telephone lines, wire & mail fraud, drug use/trafficing and age of consent violations.
You're literally trying to tell me about my own tribe and you don't have the slightest clue.
Dunno about your friends, but I imagine the original, old school MIT hackers -- the ones who lockpicked doors for fun and fought tooth and nail against any restrictions on access to computer systems -- would chuckle at an infodump like this, not clutch their pearls.
What purpose does this serve other than to incite violence? Is this not a key ingredient of fascism?
No, you need to expose them for many reasons, accountability, make it harder for them to join. You questioning this makes me think you agree with their tacticts, and it has been extremely obvious that organization is a total mess of rule breaking.
> What purpose does this serve other than to incite violence?
Does this mean you imagine them beyond the law?