Limited use because it only works on straight pasta. The majority of pasta is not straight (penne, rigatoni, fusilli, macaroni, etc..) and thus you still need to measure it properly in some way.
it is integrated in the box of the straight pasta... how is it "limited use" other than being part of the box that goes in the trash when the straight pasta is gone?
A good rule of thumb I've found is that a typical portion is about 4oz of dry pasta per person. Cooking for two people you can easily eyeball what half a box of straight pasta is, for 3 or 4 people just cook the whole box.
For other pasta types, you can measure a single or double serving by pouring into a bowl as if it's cereal.
Yep, a pound of pasta is about 4 good servings for an adult so use that to factor how much or little you want. I'll typically make one pound of pasta for my wife and I for dinner and lunch the next day. Although depending on the sauce or any added meat, it could easily be 5 or more servings. Growing up, my mom would use one 1lb box of pasta, one 24oz jar of sauce, one onion, and 1lb of ground beef to make enough food for a family of two adults and three kids.
It's actually more ingenious for spaghetti, because for fusilli/etc, you can just put scales on the packaging.
Say that you divide 500 grams in 6 servings (84ish grams each), you only need to print 4 lines on the package. You can do it either externally if the packaging is transparent, or you can even do it internally if it's not (like a carton Barilla box).
All you need to do is to empty it till when vertical it reaches levels at around the next line.
I was thinking of something like a sugar dispenseur (turn the container to fill a volume, and this volume becomes you serving), but your solution is way more economical and space efficient.
Can't say it's mine, I've seen it on a rice package!
I myself thought of a solution similar to yours, or even more complex solutions like revolving doors or having an internal chamber the size of a serving with two lids that can't be both open at the same time..
But to be honest, I don't think any of this is really useful beyond a restaurant where sizes are fixed (and indeed use pasta-specific ladles to have standard portions). Depending on the day of the week or how many and who's at home I'm still better doing the math with a scale than predefined servings.
Does anyone else just work backwards from the nutritional information? The pasta that I get has the calories per 100g of dry pasta. So I just weigh out the amount of pasta that yields a reasonable amount of calories for a meal (taking into account an estimate of the calories contributed by the components of the sauce I’m making).
This is such an HN comment and I love it. Get a cheap kitchen scale (with 0.1g accuracy) and weigh everything when you want a snack or an individual meal.
For family meals or when you want leftovers convert your common recipes to being weight based. On some common seasonings (Costco sized) I write the conversion for that seasoning for 1 tablespoon in grams. So much easier to combine dry ingredients without needing a litany of measuring utensils.
I weigh pasta on the scales pretty much every time I cook it. That way you know pretty accurately how many calories you're consuming. I don't think I'd use this because it looks less accurate.
same - also there isn't much incentive for a manufacturer to produce a "normal" single serving (about 60-70g). By my judgement that single serving looks at least 100g
Just don't break it and let it fall in the water naturally when the bottom softens up. It doesn't take long enough for there to be any issues like noodles cooked well on one side and not the other.
That method only works with large pots. Small pots will not allow the full 25 cm strand to fall into the pot until most of the other side is beyond that 'doesn't matter' length of time.
Some quick Googling says this brand is Australian. This pattern of making Europeans, Australians, and virtually everyone else on the internet “American” when it’s convenient is getting a little old.
Americans would never understand how to use this and would be annoyed by the complexity. I know I'd just be ripping the cardboard off the top in frustration myself. Who can understand complex geometry when you're already a quarter wine bottle into friday night pasta night.
> reduces food waste and ensures consistency in portion control.
and that's strike two because I'm pretty sure large food producers don't want to discourage people using up the product more quickly.
Assertions about entire countries from an outside perspective is common on the internet. As someone with family in two different countries I’ve become sensitized to it and I see it all the time.
Just like stereotype-based humor about gender or race, it has to be done really well or it is (to me) annoying. Usually it rests on reductive ideas that are driven by media imagery rather than experience.
“Americans are fat! Ha ha”. Or “Spanish people are always late! Ho ho.”
I was being lighthearted but since you're making it serious I actually think the product as implemented is truly a bad idea. It seems to use more packaging material, is indeed complicated to open and people should actually measure pasta using an actual measuring guide that is not disposable. When I clicked the link that's what I was hoping to see, not a cumbersome packaging gimmick.
If that's all American cultural (which was the joke part), then great ! I hope the idea is successful in Australia.
That website has some other more out-there stuff on it. (I love the tone because it’s impossible to tell how tongue-in-cheek it is)
Coffee and wine glass https://www.toxel.com/tech/2019/10/10/coffee-and-wine-glass/
Sofa made of pillows https://www.toxel.com/inspiration/2024/11/12/sofa-made-of-pi...
Limited use because it only works on straight pasta. The majority of pasta is not straight (penne, rigatoni, fusilli, macaroni, etc..) and thus you still need to measure it properly in some way.
The best way to measure pasta like this is to throw it from the packet into a bowl and you can get a good estimate of how much you need.
it is integrated in the box of the straight pasta... how is it "limited use" other than being part of the box that goes in the trash when the straight pasta is gone?
I weigh any shape of pasta in a similar way, just without the box. (I.e., fistfuls)
It’s limited to the boxes that have it…
A good rule of thumb I've found is that a typical portion is about 4oz of dry pasta per person. Cooking for two people you can easily eyeball what half a box of straight pasta is, for 3 or 4 people just cook the whole box.
For other pasta types, you can measure a single or double serving by pouring into a bowl as if it's cereal.
Yep, a pound of pasta is about 4 good servings for an adult so use that to factor how much or little you want. I'll typically make one pound of pasta for my wife and I for dinner and lunch the next day. Although depending on the sauce or any added meat, it could easily be 5 or more servings. Growing up, my mom would use one 1lb box of pasta, one 24oz jar of sauce, one onion, and 1lb of ground beef to make enough food for a family of two adults and three kids.
That's cool, I'm having trouble thinking of a similar design for something like fusilli or penne though.
I just put my strainer on a scale and pour dry pasta into that to measure.
It's actually more ingenious for spaghetti, because for fusilli/etc, you can just put scales on the packaging.
Say that you divide 500 grams in 6 servings (84ish grams each), you only need to print 4 lines on the package. You can do it either externally if the packaging is transparent, or you can even do it internally if it's not (like a carton Barilla box).
All you need to do is to empty it till when vertical it reaches levels at around the next line.
Clever !
I was thinking of something like a sugar dispenseur (turn the container to fill a volume, and this volume becomes you serving), but your solution is way more economical and space efficient.
Can't say it's mine, I've seen it on a rice package!
I myself thought of a solution similar to yours, or even more complex solutions like revolving doors or having an internal chamber the size of a serving with two lids that can't be both open at the same time..
But to be honest, I don't think any of this is really useful beyond a restaurant where sizes are fixed (and indeed use pasta-specific ladles to have standard portions). Depending on the day of the week or how many and who's at home I'm still better doing the math with a scale than predefined servings.
> Can't say it's mine, I've seen it on a rice package!
Similar thing on UK butter - on a 250g block, there's 50g markings[0] on the wrapper to make simple(ish) weights easy.
[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/11ogzqj/... (only decent photo I could find on the webs and we don't currently have any butter in the fridge)
US butter is similar, each stick is marked with tablespoons, cups, and fractional pounds.
Why not just label each tablespoon and then just remember a tablespoon is 14g and do quick division.
That wouldn't work because pasta settles, so a given weight doesn't correspond directly to a given volume.
I don’t think you are looking for the level of precision where that would matter.
You could have a lid that folds back from the top of the box to form a cup that the box could pour into.
Or just take a deep dish and fill it with dry pasta. At some point you get a feeling for it.
I’m find nutritional guidelines for pasta too sad to live by. It’s just not enough to satisfy me and overall detracts from my enjoyment of the meal.
well, here in Italy, the individual "portion" varies widely. Usually from 80g to 200g.
used to be 90g when we had 3 courses per meal (primo, secondo, formaggio/frutta)
150g nowadays if y only have one course and are hungry
200g is indeed a lot
200g, wow. Someone is very hungry.
Does anyone else just work backwards from the nutritional information? The pasta that I get has the calories per 100g of dry pasta. So I just weigh out the amount of pasta that yields a reasonable amount of calories for a meal (taking into account an estimate of the calories contributed by the components of the sauce I’m making).
This is such an HN comment and I love it. Get a cheap kitchen scale (with 0.1g accuracy) and weigh everything when you want a snack or an individual meal.
For family meals or when you want leftovers convert your common recipes to being weight based. On some common seasonings (Costco sized) I write the conversion for that seasoning for 1 tablespoon in grams. So much easier to combine dry ingredients without needing a litany of measuring utensils.
It's impossible to make this work for everyone. According to certain serving scales I'm 2 to 3 people.
Clever, but useless. After you've cooked pasta once, who would ever use this?
I weigh pasta on the scales pretty much every time I cook it. That way you know pretty accurately how many calories you're consuming. I don't think I'd use this because it looks less accurate.
same - also there isn't much incentive for a manufacturer to produce a "normal" single serving (about 60-70g). By my judgement that single serving looks at least 100g
No way! just go with 120gr of whatever pasta you have (must be: spaghetti, linguine, paccheri, mezze maniche or rigatoni).
Then watch as marketing gets them to increase the serving size bit by bit over a few years.
Right up there with “shampoo, rinse, repeat.”
Now make a device that reliably and consistently breaks the strand in half to fit in the pot, without sending pasta shrapnel into orbit.
Just don't break it and let it fall in the water naturally when the bottom softens up. It doesn't take long enough for there to be any issues like noodles cooked well on one side and not the other.
That method only works with large pots. Small pots will not allow the full 25 cm strand to fall into the pot until most of the other side is beyond that 'doesn't matter' length of time.
Just break it towards the pot, over the pot... Done.
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Some quick Googling says this brand is Australian. This pattern of making Europeans, Australians, and virtually everyone else on the internet “American” when it’s convenient is getting a little old.
Who has the counter space for a scale? Just cook the food, not too much, mostly green. I don't see how a scale will help
I'm all for jumping on the Americans-can't-use-sane-systems-of-measure bandwagon, but in this case San Remo is an Australian brand.
This is an unaffiliated mockup posted on Behance for an Australian company.
What's extraordinary is your insecurity.
Americans would never understand how to use this and would be annoyed by the complexity. I know I'd just be ripping the cardboard off the top in frustration myself. Who can understand complex geometry when you're already a quarter wine bottle into friday night pasta night.
> reduces food waste and ensures consistency in portion control.
and that's strike two because I'm pretty sure large food producers don't want to discourage people using up the product more quickly.
> Americans would never understand how to use this
This is a student project on Behance for an Australian company. But go on about things American's don't understand.
hey that's why this thing on our screen we're reading is called....."comments"
you know. people see a thing, then they have...."comments". about the thing.
but thanks for keeping hacker news safe from illegal comments!
Assertions about entire countries from an outside perspective is common on the internet. As someone with family in two different countries I’ve become sensitized to it and I see it all the time.
Just like stereotype-based humor about gender or race, it has to be done really well or it is (to me) annoying. Usually it rests on reductive ideas that are driven by media imagery rather than experience.
“Americans are fat! Ha ha”. Or “Spanish people are always late! Ho ho.”
I was being lighthearted but since you're making it serious I actually think the product as implemented is truly a bad idea. It seems to use more packaging material, is indeed complicated to open and people should actually measure pasta using an actual measuring guide that is not disposable. When I clicked the link that's what I was hoping to see, not a cumbersome packaging gimmick.
If that's all American cultural (which was the joke part), then great ! I hope the idea is successful in Australia.
@zzzeek Thank you for your service.