The SBN, later ISBN, system was not created by 'Merica. The SBN system was created by a professor as a commissioned work for WH Smith, a UK-based bookseller. Later the ISO took over and standardized the ISBN.
ISBNs are not legally required by the government, any more than a book is required to have a title. They are a convenience for getting a book out there in retail channels and have it be identifiable, trackable, etc.
Any other person or group is free to invent a new system and get everyone in the book industry to adopt it alongside or as a replacement for ISBNs.
The U.S. government is not making you get an ISBN for your book. Many books are published without one. But neither did the U.S. government step up in 1970 and offer to be the issuer, unlike in many other countries like India and Canada. So the U.S. is in the minority of countries where a for-profit company ended up getting the right to be the issuer for that country. Considering that the vast majority of books in the U.S. are published by huge for-profit publishers, it doesn't seem that bad to have them pay the issuer $30 for a ISBN if they want the convenience. It's a free country, so they are free to eschew the ISBN as well.
I guess if you feel so strongly about it, you can lobby Congress to buy out R.R. Bowker, make the Librarian of Congress the registrar offering ISBNs for free, so they can add to the so-called Deep State!
Sounds pretty scary. Next you'll tell me you can get semiglutide medications to lose weight cheaply, helping people to be healthier. Feels like anarchy.
Trademarks and patents are enforced by governments. Unique identifiers for books was a marketing idea. You, me, anyone could create a new system and somebody probably will :)
> Actually it's highly usual... CUSIPs... there's nothing to stop you from setting up your own, alternative... numbering system
I don't think there's anything natural about the mandatory use of copyrighted CUSIP identifiers in regulatory reporting. When SEC publishes its quarterly list of 13F securities it includes a disclaimer that it does so "with permission" from the copyright holder. My city doesn't pay royalties or seek approvals when it records and processes car license plate numbers for parking enforcement. The copyright holder seems actively involved in rulemaking that has the potential to diminish the role CUSIPs play in mandatory regulatory reporting.
The SBN, later ISBN, system was not created by 'Merica. The SBN system was created by a professor as a commissioned work for WH Smith, a UK-based bookseller. Later the ISO took over and standardized the ISBN.
ISBNs are not legally required by the government, any more than a book is required to have a title. They are a convenience for getting a book out there in retail channels and have it be identifiable, trackable, etc.
Any other person or group is free to invent a new system and get everyone in the book industry to adopt it alongside or as a replacement for ISBNs.
The U.S. government is not making you get an ISBN for your book. Many books are published without one. But neither did the U.S. government step up in 1970 and offer to be the issuer, unlike in many other countries like India and Canada. So the U.S. is in the minority of countries where a for-profit company ended up getting the right to be the issuer for that country. Considering that the vast majority of books in the U.S. are published by huge for-profit publishers, it doesn't seem that bad to have them pay the issuer $30 for a ISBN if they want the convenience. It's a free country, so they are free to eschew the ISBN as well.
I guess if you feel so strongly about it, you can lobby Congress to buy out R.R. Bowker, make the Librarian of Congress the registrar offering ISBNs for free, so they can add to the so-called Deep State!
As a counterpoint, every Canadian gets 10 free ISBNs they can use. If they use those up (I’m close) they can buy more cheaply.
This is what a society looks like that isn’t run for the purpose of maximizing profit of companies.
Sounds pretty scary. Next you'll tell me you can get semiglutide medications to lose weight cheaply, helping people to be healthier. Feels like anarchy.
Haha, even better, just be healthier and less stressed in the first place. No need for chemical intervention.
Because they co-created the idea?
Trademarks and patents are enforced by governments. Unique identifiers for books was a marketing idea. You, me, anyone could create a new system and somebody probably will :)
Actually it's highly usual. Lots of things are like this, e.g. UPC numbers for barcodes, D&B / D-U-N-S numbers, CUSIPs.
The government doesn't require books to have ISBNs, so why should issuing them be the government's problem?
There's nothing to stop you from setting up your own, alternative book numbering system that nobody cares about if you think you can do a better job.
> Actually it's highly usual... CUSIPs... there's nothing to stop you from setting up your own, alternative... numbering system
I don't think there's anything natural about the mandatory use of copyrighted CUSIP identifiers in regulatory reporting. When SEC publishes its quarterly list of 13F securities it includes a disclaimer that it does so "with permission" from the copyright holder. My city doesn't pay royalties or seek approvals when it records and processes car license plate numbers for parking enforcement. The copyright holder seems actively involved in rulemaking that has the potential to diminish the role CUSIPs play in mandatory regulatory reporting.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/apps/proposals/comments/FR-00...
Case in point: I have several technical manuals that look like books but have no ISBN numbers.
And app stores require DUNS numbers too, reinforcing D&B's power
Do you know what the “I” in ISBN stands for?
There’s a whole world out there.
> ICANN is effectively a child of a U.S. defense agency
is it?