I don't know how long people will be willing to pay so much for something that is complex and expensive to develop and test, but extremely cheap to produce, to the point that we are talking about a few dollars a week when buying peptides on the gray market.
In terms of safety, empirically, it seems extremely safe for a molecule with such a strong and reliable effect. I bought some peptides and the most frustrating part of the whole endeavor was buying 5 ml syringes: local pharmacies require a prescription, but I managed to buy them on Amazon.
When something is so easy to produce and distribute, we will have many more people buying peptides on the gray market (cheaper) and syringes on Amazon (faster).
I expect there will soon be a crackdown on the gray market, or at least an attempt at one, but how effective can the government be when no one has ever said, “I can't find cocaine tonight”?
I am referring to the gray market: you buy the peptide in powdered form, reconstitute it using bacteriostatic water, store it in the fridge, and inject once a week. The protocols are well known.
Some people titrate (adjust the dose up every two weeks), others stay at the same dose as the initial one (1-2 mg per week), and some fit people use half of the initial dose (0.5 mg per week). Retatrutide/GLP-3, which has yet to be approved for human use (FDA is expected to give the thumbs up by the end of the year), is used, I'd venture to guess, by millions of people at this point.
Wegovy, not Ozempic. Ozempic is often on major prescription formularies while Wegovy isn't... same compound, but being overweight is considered "a choice" when it might not necessarily be in every case because moralizing judgements blaming certain patients but not others seems necessary to refuse to give everyone healthcare equally as a human right.
And it's still ~6000% more than much of the rest of the world.
Compounding brick and mortar, real pharmacies adding vitamin b12 are selling it for $250/month (4 weeks actually) simply because the prices are of the auto injector Novo Nordisk version is insane.
Yes, but it demonstrates a significant reduction trend in pricing over time. And the reduction in food budget in major US metros (ingredients, even without valuation of time spent cooking, and restaurants) will easily approach that $500 mark and for many, exceed.
Mine is like a $1200 for two people, but I out mass my spouse by almost 2x. I could definitely see us cutting $500 from our grocery budget if I could become 45 cm shorter, and lose half my mass.
I don't know how long people will be willing to pay so much for something that is complex and expensive to develop and test, but extremely cheap to produce, to the point that we are talking about a few dollars a week when buying peptides on the gray market.
In terms of safety, empirically, it seems extremely safe for a molecule with such a strong and reliable effect. I bought some peptides and the most frustrating part of the whole endeavor was buying 5 ml syringes: local pharmacies require a prescription, but I managed to buy them on Amazon. When something is so easy to produce and distribute, we will have many more people buying peptides on the gray market (cheaper) and syringes on Amazon (faster).
I expect there will soon be a crackdown on the gray market, or at least an attempt at one, but how effective can the government be when no one has ever said, “I can't find cocaine tonight”?
> extremely cheap to produce
It's still about $200 per month in India.
I am referring to the gray market: you buy the peptide in powdered form, reconstitute it using bacteriostatic water, store it in the fridge, and inject once a week. The protocols are well known.
Some people titrate (adjust the dose up every two weeks), others stay at the same dose as the initial one (1-2 mg per week), and some fit people use half of the initial dose (0.5 mg per week). Retatrutide/GLP-3, which has yet to be approved for human use (FDA is expected to give the thumbs up by the end of the year), is used, I'd venture to guess, by millions of people at this point.
India is probably all over this at this point.
Wegovy, not Ozempic. Ozempic is often on major prescription formularies while Wegovy isn't... same compound, but being overweight is considered "a choice" when it might not necessarily be in every case because moralizing judgements blaming certain patients but not others seems necessary to refuse to give everyone healthcare equally as a human right.
And it's still ~6000% more than much of the rest of the world.
Compounding brick and mortar, real pharmacies adding vitamin b12 are selling it for $250/month (4 weeks actually) simply because the prices are of the auto injector Novo Nordisk version is insane.
God bless capitalism... sell them cheap fatty food and then sell them drugs so they can remain healthy...
For $500/mo, geez
Yes, but it demonstrates a significant reduction trend in pricing over time. And the reduction in food budget in major US metros (ingredients, even without valuation of time spent cooking, and restaurants) will easily approach that $500 mark and for many, exceed.
I’m not buying that many people could save $500 on groceries. That’s more than my entire grocery budget.
Mine is like a $1200 for two people, but I out mass my spouse by almost 2x. I could definitely see us cutting $500 from our grocery budget if I could become 45 cm shorter, and lose half my mass.