The Buchstabenmuseum Berlin is closing

(buchstabenmuseum.de)

164 points | by t-vi 18 hours ago ago

54 comments

  • weinzierl 17 hours ago ago

    Sad to hear.

    Berlin is a modern typography hub, the influence Spiekermann has in the DACH region and maybe even beyond is hard to overestimate.

    Apart from that if you come to Berlin and you are the kind of person that would have liked the Buchstabenmuseum you should try to get an opportunity to visit the crashed space station.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-base

  • tethys 13 hours ago ago

    As for why they are closing:

    > Fixed costs and a lack of financial support are forcing us to take this step. In addition, the general cultural situation in Berlin is very precarious. It was a very difficult decision for us.

    Via Deepl, original here: https://www.instagram.com/p/DLuAW5DIANV/

    • vishnugupta 12 hours ago ago

      > cultural situation in Berlin is very precarious

      Can someone please elaborate this for someone who is absolutely clueless about Berlin?

      • ohthehugemanate 3 hours ago ago

        Speaking as someone with a company in the arts based in berlin:

        Sister comments get excited about population growth, gentrification, rising rent prices, and everyone's favorite c-word. Those are all real things that are happening in berlin, that are favorite bogeymen to complain about at parties. None of them apply here.

        Rising rents are much more of a residential problem. Prime commercial rents are also rising, but at 1.1%/yr... and non-prime/specialty commercial like the subway arches in Hansaviertel are generally stable or declining since COVID.

        The museum cites loss of premises as a factor. The Deutsche bahn leases the subway arches typically on 5 or 10 year terms. Since they moved in 2016 it sounds like DB is declining to renew the contract and they are facing another move.

        But the really big elephant in the room is a lack of funding. The museum has always been proudly privately funded and volunteer operated. But that still exposes them to indirect effects from public funding cuts, and berlin cut 13% of its culture funding in 2024. Private donations are down 6% year over year, and what there is has seen significant diversion to political and Ukraine support efforts. Similar impacts happen in volunteer time, but we're all waiting on the 5-yearly survey from 2024 to be released to get real data.

        Fixed costs are often the killer for museums, and the buchstaben museum blamed these in particular. Heating and electricity, and general climate maintenance in nonstandard spaces like the subway arches is always expensive, and museums are relatively energy intensive to begin with. Wholesale electricity costs jumped 5-7x in 2021-22. They've since come back down to a more modest 30-40% increase, but that's still a huge problem for a small, privately funded institution like this. Especially coupled with public funding loss, reduced private donations, and staring down a move.

        Bear in mind, German non profits can't create endowments like American ones can. Most categories can't even roll budget from one year to the next!

        Hope this helps you understand why so many privately funded cultural institutions are dying in Germany and Berlin right now.

        • sgc 3 hours ago ago

          Is there any political momentum to deal with this, for example allowing at least some level of endowments? I respect the purity of the ideal, but it sounds like it is backfiring right now.

      • worldsayshi 12 hours ago ago

        Partial explanation: Gentrification + increased costs because of inflation is my understanding.

        Berlin has been relatively underpopulated ever since WW2 which seems to have contributed to a de-gentrified situation which allowed an unique culture to grow. But time's are changing.

        Look at this pop graph: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_population_statistics Still hasn't caught up with the peak in the 1930:s.

        • scoofy 11 hours ago ago

          >a de-gentrified situation

          What does this even mean? Does this mean "low cost of living"? I feel like gentrification due to post-war generational housing shortages is now just a catch all term for increasing cost of living in general.

          • oezi 10 hours ago ago

            Berlin lost over 1.5m inhabitants in the time since 1945 to its lowest point after reunification (due to being a divided city without much industrial jobs).

            At it height 1 in 5 apartments were empty in Berlin which pushed rents down below 4 EUR per square meter. A 3 bedroom apartment for less than 500 EURs a month. This was de-gentrification the parent mentioned.

            Since 2010 population grew and now Berlin has housing shortages like every other capital in Europe. Rents now top 20 EUR per sqm.

          • worldsayshi 11 hours ago ago

            Sure it's mostly about cost of living but also relatively good access to abandoned buildings (and perhaps other services) that could be used for non housing purposes. A lot of Berlin clubs and art venues started in buildings that were abandoned if I understand correctly.

            I recall that there were interesting similarities after depopulation events like the black plague. Suddenly there's a surplus of built infrastructure.

        • immibis 9 hours ago ago

          Berlin is the best proof that capitalism destroys culture. We should probably find a way to prevent that from happening. The current German and Berlin government would rather accelerate it though - besides the funding thing, they're currently ramming a highway expansion straight through a cultural area.

          To answer the question in replies, good East Berlin developed in the relative anarchy when the Soviet Union collapsed and no new system was really established yet. (Being able to exchange deutschemarks for groceries is not capitalism - they had that in communism too.) The western end of Berlin, by contrast, wasn't culturally interesting in the same way, and didn't change much when the wall fell. Not that symphony orchestras and painting galleries aren't culture, but they're not the kind we're talking about here, the kind that develops bottom up when people are given the freedom to do what they want.

          dang informed me by email that this is a bad comment and I deserve to be, and have been, punished for posting it.

          • Thorrez 9 hours ago ago

            Did the prior good Belin culture develop under a economic system other than capitalism?

            • worldsayshi 9 hours ago ago

              Yeah I don't agree that this proves something about capitalism but it does indicate that an abundance of cheap housing/buildings makes culture thrive.

              • lukan 8 hours ago ago

                "but it does indicate that an abundance of cheap housing/buildings makes culture thrive."

                Not on its own, though. Plenty of abandoned/underpopulated cheap places in europe that do not thrive. But it certainly is beneficial.

                (in the case of Berlin, there was for example a special effect, that all germans living in west berlin did not had to go to the army (to not having to shoot their relatives in east berlin) - so lots of counterculture people evading the army came to Berlin and they created culture)

              • pantalaimon 9 hours ago ago

                It's politics that prevents the construction of cheap housing, not capitalism.

      • tchalla 11 hours ago ago
      • ido 12 hours ago ago

        Municipal/state government cutting budgets.

      • cyberax 9 hours ago ago

        Berlin, like other large cities, suffers from cancerous population density growth. It's sucking the life away from nearby cities, while the cost of living keeps skyrocketing.

    • ajkjk 13 hours ago ago

      What cultural situation are they referring to?

      • trenchpilgrim 12 hours ago ago

        I believe they mean "funding for culture," i.e. public grants for museums.

  • hentrep 15 hours ago ago

    This is a bummer - headed to Berlin for the first time in a few weeks and hoped to visit. Any recommendations for similarly geek-oriented side trips in Berlin?

  • pluc 16 hours ago ago

    Berlin is an open air museum for typography

  • Symbiote 13 hours ago ago

    In a similar vein there's the Neon Museum in Warsaw.

    https://www.neonmuzeum.org/english

  • mnot 15 hours ago ago

    Oh no! We were just there a couple of months ago. I hope they find a good home for their collection.

  • not--felix 10 hours ago ago

    It's sad. I did not know this exists, where do people find locations like this?

  • macinjosh 9 hours ago ago

    Why do they need a museum dedicated to back stabbing?

  • kcaseg 16 hours ago ago

    Probably the money gambled away on slop AI startups in a single week could sustain thousands of museums like this for decades

    • laughing_man 3 hours ago ago

      "Gambled away" is an unfair characterization. People will get rich off of AI, too. We just don't know who yet.

      Nobody is going to make money on museums. As such, you either provide for them through tax dollars or you convince people to donate.

    • aetherson 14 hours ago ago

      Money spent on startups isn't charity, you do it in the expectation of (in aggregate) profit -- so it's not rivalrous with charities. People who might support museums earn money on investments that they can then use for charities.

      If you believe that you are better at picking winners (slop startups vs non-slop startups) than the rest of the investment world, then that's a valuable skill that you could use to earn a lot of money that you could then use to support museums if you choose.

      • idiotsecant 14 hours ago ago

        It's a deeply capitalist perspective to respond to a criticism of the excesses and inefficiency of wild, unfounded capital speculation with 'Well if you so smart, why ain't you rich?!?'

        • aetherson 14 hours ago ago

          It's a deeply non-capitalist perspective to demand that everyone respond to dumb posts with sentiment instead of analysis.

          • ribasushi 14 hours ago ago

            > a deeply non-capitalist perspective

            This seems to have been said as if it is a bad thing. Is it, or did I misread what you meant?

            • aetherson 12 hours ago ago

              Well, let's go with a learning exercise. Do you think that you should dismiss the fact that someone said something dumb because you perceive them as being on the right side? Then I guess it's good for you.

            • pessimizer 13 hours ago ago

              It turns out they were being triggered by sentiment to respond with more sentiment, but they think their sentiment is "analysis."

            • andriesm 12 hours ago ago

              Well if you are very against capitalism, that would be pretty bad, but ONLY if you are then also a hypocrite working for amounts of money that would make anyone not in the top 20 percent of the world population's eyes pop;

              Deduct extra points if you ever accepted stock options, ever tried to start a startup or did a side hustle because you wanted MORE than the bare minimum you need to survive. (Like those capitalist pigs do!)

              Or if you are typing this from a mobile phone or laptop computer that costs an amount of money that would be unimaginable to the typical person for most of human history.

              Otherwise you're golden. Socialism truly is the superior moral position. It's so obvious we can all agree. And you should lead by example by giving away everything that you might need less than some other random poor person out there.

              • idiotsecant 3 hours ago ago

                Whew, it's like strawman bingo!!

        • WalterBright 11 hours ago ago

          Is that so unreasonable? Lots of people post that Wall Street corporations are dominated by short term, next quarter thinking. If that were true, then shorting those stocks would be a profitable plan. It seems reasonable to point out that if one is so sure corporations were going to tank because of short term thinking, they could get rich by shorting the stock.

          • thequux 9 hours ago ago

            Alas, the market can remain irrational longer than I can remain solvent.

            • WalterBright 2 hours ago ago

              Looking at a chart of the S&P 500 over decades, it's hard to see how anyone could make money by betting on corporations only being interested in short term results.

              • Spooky23 2 hours ago ago

                The S&P 500 is a list. 80+% of the companies on that list when it started are no longer on it.

                Betting on business in general over long time periods tends to be a winning proposition. Betting on an individual company tends to be less of a winner in general.

                • WalterBright an hour ago ago

                  Businesses do tend to fail eventually. Their business model become obsolete, the market for their product fades away, they strangle themselves with bureaucracy, they zig instead of zag. That isn't short-term-itis.

                  But you cannot grow a small company into a large one by concentrating on short term profits. The S&P 500 is composed of 500 large companies.

                  Imagine if you were selling MSFT short every quarter since they IPO'd in the '80s.

      • tempfile 11 hours ago ago

        I agree completely. Museums, culture, and other wasteful/pointless excesses should be deducted from profits - at the discretion of the profiteer - only after the actually useful work of poisoning the drinking water to generate pornography is complete.

        Long live the overlords.

    • CrzyLngPwd 10 hours ago ago

      Or the money they sent to Ukraine.

  • lysace 14 hours ago ago

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchstabenmuseum

    It opened in 2016.

    This post is likely the most attention it has ever received.

    • phillipharris 13 hours ago ago

      It opened in 2005 and moved in 2016