13 comments

  • bogantech 19 hours ago ago

    Imagine the world we'd live in if productivity wasn't wasted of performative bs

    • Imustaskforhelp 19 hours ago ago

      Vercel was already like a landlord leeching off of the closed ecosystem that they had built for next.js

      I think that this might be a real nail in the coffin for vercel I suppose but I am at the same time worried about the projects that Vercel seemingly took like nuxt/sveltekit/next which might all have a huge impact if vercel really goes under the bus / bankrupts? (Highly unlikely but you never know the boycotts)

      Its just something really unethical to pick sides in a conflict of the side of killing children... I don't really know why he would do something like this which can cause so much backlash / boycott that can really just kill his company.

      I am never using vercel again and I genuinely prefer cloudflare or even netlify/railway/sevalia/render etc. could be good and the so many other providers that offer the same thing.

      Edit: Another good thing might be to leave serverless altogether and to get servers from hetzner could be something really cool too.

      I have found that lightning.ai has a 4gb free cpu that I use sometimes to do some stuff in cloud too sometimes and I don't think that there is a limit to how much you can use and there were definitely some people online that I met that were abusing this a lot by making 10-20 accounts on lightning and I was just sad knowing that it might lead to losing the free thing which I deeply cherish of sometimes.

      • senti_sentient 19 hours ago ago

        I run nextjs using dokploy on a vps but am sure this might be the final push for us to break free from Vercel. Shame because I was such an early believer and adopter.

    • ebbi 19 hours ago ago

      What is performative about this? Not wanting to spend your money on someone that gloats online about meeting with a wanted war criminal is not performative at all.

      • Imustaskforhelp 19 hours ago ago

        Yes I know nothing is performative about this and each day I get a little less hopeful around the VC circle and I genuinely don't understand why he would do something so horrible knowing the backlash but even without knowing, like is taking the side of literal children so hard in this world and why...

        I am just out of words frankly for him. I just know that this thing isn't going to fly and would impact vercel as a whole, maybe they might even fear him if they could, I suppose.

      • bogantech 18 hours ago ago

        > What is performative about this?

        Re-architecting and changing your tech stack because you don't like the CEO of <company> is not going to change anything in the middle east

        • JohnFen 3 hours ago ago

          Whether or not it results in change, there's value in at least being true to your own ethics and refusing to financially support people and companies that are doing things you think are wrong.

        • ebbi 18 hours ago ago

          In the short term, may be not. In the short term, it allows those not wanting to financially support people who overlook a genocide. In the long term, hopefully this can lead to financial sanctions on Israel itself.

          Either of those isn't performative. And if either of those didn't play out, then at least their conscience was clear in knowing they did what they could, as little as it may have been.

        • bdangubic 18 hours ago ago

          all while carrying iphone around…………

          • justinrubek 2 hours ago ago

            > Yet you participate in society. Curious!

    • itsnowandnever 16 hours ago ago

      the modern world as we know it only exists because of "performative bs". if it weren't for "performative bs", most of humanity would be helots working subsistence farms

    • Kye 7 hours ago ago

      >> "performative bs"

      Is it really so hard for you to believe some people have actual values they try to adhere to? Not everything is a cynical ploy.

    • retrochameleon 12 hours ago ago

      It's okay. This is a safe space. While you're at it, tell us how you feel the industry telling us to stop using words like "master" and "slave".