neat technical sidenote: to stay non-custodial, the "key" parameter in these links is after a # hash. This ensures servers don't actually see this link-secret and steal the funds!
Let me know when Brazil + Pix is supported. The feature I have not seen in any of these websites that transfer money between countries is the ability to schedule reoccurring payments. I send money to my family monthly, and it would be nice if I didn't have to do the same exact process each time.
hey kkonrad here, biz cofounder at peanut. really cool to start seeing users on this. esp proud of this being open source and a PWA despite many having advised against this.
That's an excellent question and has a lot of nuance to it. In principle there's ~200 countries in the world, and most of them have their own currency, which leads do 200^200 = 40_000 exchange rates in the world. More even; most currencies have wildly different exchange depending on what exchange you are actually using and how much liquidity that exchange has.
In practice, most currencies are actually liquid against the American dollar; and maybe a few other major coins. This is mostly a technical issue, since liquidity is fragmented and it is just easier to trade against what you know everyone else has: the all-dominant US Dollar [1].
Now, enough theory, how do we do it at Peanut?
Currently, all user balances at Peanut are dollarized; that means users hold USD stablecoins. This is a deliberate simplification; in the future, we plan to roll out other stablecoin support (especially important for Europeans. The rest of the world is pretty happy with holding USD).
When we have to do an exchange to a local currency, like Argentinian Pesos, we work with a local exchange provider. They are able to give us the best exchange rate, because we go directly from a USD-like stablecoin (USDC or USDT usually), to their currency.
For them, USDC & USDT are functionally equivalent to hard cash, and they price it accordingly. They also get it IMMEDIATELY; they don't have to wait multiple days until settlement and until we wire them the funds from some American or European Bank. This is much better for us than for other fintechs like Revolut or Wise; they have to have their own liquidity (and all the infra, compliance, and legal that that entails!)
In the future, I expect our exchange rates to get even better. As foreign exchange continues to grow ON chain, liquidity on chain will increase; until it is the largest (and thus CHEAPEST) exchange in the world.
[1] Note: with the slow end of Pax Americana under the current US regime, the adoption of US Dollar has actually been falling somewhat; replaced by sovereign nations and funds actually holding more gold instead of usd . That's also why we've seen gold at all time highs
Just to show how easy it is to send/receive money with Peanut, here's a few links with $2 each.
(they are only claimable once, so please be courteous and don't claim all, leave some for other users!)
1. https://peanut.me/claim?c=42161&v=v4.3&i=5778#p=ms74xIbdGVSK...
2. https://peanut.me/claim?c=42161&v=v4.3&i=5779#p=G7V82WybXthy...
3. https://peanut.me/claim?c=42161&v=v4.3&i=5780#p=Rgpymby5wBbO...
4. https://peanut.me/claim?c=42161&v=v4.3&i=5781#p=6F5nKWjx2Kf6...
5. https://peanut.me/claim?c=42161&v=v4.3&i=5782#p=DtdJ0y2Ufayu...
neat technical sidenote: to stay non-custodial, the "key" parameter in these links is after a # hash. This ensures servers don't actually see this link-secret and steal the funds!
I actually really like the website. Do you support US also, or just EU (Portugal?)? Thanks!
Thanks! Do you like the flashy design, or the actual UX of the app?
US and EU banking rails are both fully supported!
Let me know when Brazil + Pix is supported. The feature I have not seen in any of these websites that transfer money between countries is the ability to schedule reoccurring payments. I send money to my family monthly, and it would be nice if I didn't have to do the same exact process each time.
We're literally adding it this week! Give me your email or some place to reach you, i'll notify you
You can also try the dev build at https://staging.peanut.me but it's quite unstable atm
hey kkonrad here, biz cofounder at peanut. really cool to start seeing users on this. esp proud of this being open source and a PWA despite many having advised against this.
how do you handle (or plan to handle) exchange operation types?
That's an excellent question and has a lot of nuance to it. In principle there's ~200 countries in the world, and most of them have their own currency, which leads do 200^200 = 40_000 exchange rates in the world. More even; most currencies have wildly different exchange depending on what exchange you are actually using and how much liquidity that exchange has.
In practice, most currencies are actually liquid against the American dollar; and maybe a few other major coins. This is mostly a technical issue, since liquidity is fragmented and it is just easier to trade against what you know everyone else has: the all-dominant US Dollar [1].
Now, enough theory, how do we do it at Peanut?
Currently, all user balances at Peanut are dollarized; that means users hold USD stablecoins. This is a deliberate simplification; in the future, we plan to roll out other stablecoin support (especially important for Europeans. The rest of the world is pretty happy with holding USD).
When we have to do an exchange to a local currency, like Argentinian Pesos, we work with a local exchange provider. They are able to give us the best exchange rate, because we go directly from a USD-like stablecoin (USDC or USDT usually), to their currency.
For them, USDC & USDT are functionally equivalent to hard cash, and they price it accordingly. They also get it IMMEDIATELY; they don't have to wait multiple days until settlement and until we wire them the funds from some American or European Bank. This is much better for us than for other fintechs like Revolut or Wise; they have to have their own liquidity (and all the infra, compliance, and legal that that entails!)
In the future, I expect our exchange rates to get even better. As foreign exchange continues to grow ON chain, liquidity on chain will increase; until it is the largest (and thus CHEAPEST) exchange in the world.
[1] Note: with the slow end of Pax Americana under the current US regime, the adoption of US Dollar has actually been falling somewhat; replaced by sovereign nations and funds actually holding more gold instead of usd . That's also why we've seen gold at all time highs