The page mentions improvements but I can't tell from the main readme what is the advantage over the stock firmware, which I found to be quite nice for my personal use.
I feel like every time this device shows up I need to yell from the rooftops how dangerous(and illegal) some of the wifi and Bluetooth attacks can be. Even if it's totally baffling WHY any safety critical devices including industrial cranes and pacemakers have consumer radios in them, that doesn't make you less responsible when you crash tons of metal into someones skull or stop someone's heart.
Cool device, and I'm not saying it should be illegal or anything, but I've met people who have zero clue with these devices and it's a bit scary.
Which pacemakers rely on ISM band communications to work?
Not doubting you (M in ISM stands for Medical, after all), just curious how it works to get from messing around on 2.4GHz to someone's ticker stopping.
Given how much of a soup ISM is already I don't know if I'd want someone's ancient cordless phone, stupid "hacker" toy, or my microwave stopping my heart.
If that is true (and I’m from the US); I remind myself about how if there are just 50,000 trained agents in that haystack of 2M+ illegal crossings every year from a country that hates us (edit: to clarify, China, North Korea, Russia through Mexico) we could be so screwed. 500 agents for each of the top 100 cities, with tools that make Flipper look like a toy.
> 2M+ illegal crossings every year from a country that hates us
Huh? Since when does Mexico hate America? Many Mexicans like visiting America for shopping and sightseeing, which is why over 2.3M were issued visitor visas in 2023 alone. Mexicans living in American tend to be very hardworking and friendly. Also, I thought most of the people crossing illegally are originally coming from points south of Mexico?
Most of the people coming here illegally now are not from Mexico. Some of the last ICE numbers I saw, border patrol had over 150 countries represented and none of them were Mexico. It is true that Mexican cartels who employ Coyotes do account for the majority of the trafficking since they control all the major routes into this country. All of these illegals are violating the Safe Country asylum rule and the majority of people who are seen for asylum cases are rejected and deported anyways.
>> Mexicans living in American tend to be very hardworking and friendly.
They also remit billions back to Mexico which never make into our economy:
Mexicans living and working abroad sent $63.31 billion home last year, a 7.6% increase compared to 2022. Remittances out of Mexico increased 19.5% last year to total $1.05 billion, or just 1.7% of the incoming amount.
Most of the incoming money — 99% of which was wired electronically in transfers that averaged $393 per transaction — came from the United States, where millions of Mexicans live.
The responsibility remains squarely with the people who developed these devices and the people who give it FCC approval.
Devices shouldn’t malfunction and handle interference gracefully. It is an FCC certification requirement and that requirement includes any interference.
I don’t think that is either legally, or morally, true.
Sure, it would be better if devices weren’t broken by attack attempts, but if you are purposefully trying to attack something, you are to blame for your attack succeeding?
Literally anyone can do this with an MCU of some type and a 50 cent device. Bluetooth, RF, NFC, etc. This just makes is a nice little convenient package.
There is victim blaming and there is practicality.
A pacemaker that can't withstand random radio bursts is useless, as the first time you walk down the street you are dead.
So unless you are going to ban any sort of microcontroller, and very well documented and simple circuit designs, this is still not victim blaming.
These devices do have FCC approval. It is why I can't send a garage door opener signal from my Flipper on the 315MHz band, because in the US, that isn't spectrum allocated to my fucking-about. I get a little message when I click send that says so.
All devices can be modified after the fact. Whether a manufacturer makes it easy, in the case of Flipper Zero, or hard, in the case of many other devices, to modify and install custom firmware that breaks FCC approvals, that lets it broadcast in frequencies it was not approved for, and allow the user to attack certain systems, is not really the manufacturers problem, anymore than Apple selling me a laptop I write malicious code on is Apple's fault, or the manufacturer of an IR blaster being responsible for me using it to mess with the TVs at the sports bar, or the Raspberry Pi Foundation for creating a device with a WiFi chipset that can be used to run deauth attacks, or the generic FM transmitter I could hardware hack to interfere with all sorts of stuff, or the RTL-SDR...or the ad infinitum
A device may be required to not malfunction due to interference, but it can't be required to function in the presence of interference because that's a technical impossibility if the interference is strong enough to overpower the intended signal. That's why there are laws which say that if you use something like the Flipper as an RF jammer (which is possible with custom firmware) then angry feds might show up at your house.
What does this unlock that the standard stock Flipper Zero does not?
Nothing. This is the official firmware repo.
Then why does it say "Unlock"? Nothing burger?
The submitter posted that title, it is not in the GitHub page. It probably meant, "the source is there so if you need extra features..."
Is this just a newer release of the Stock firmware, or is it a custom branch?
The page mentions improvements but I can't tell from the main readme what is the advantage over the stock firmware, which I found to be quite nice for my personal use.
Its the stock firmware. You can find the changelog here:
https://github.com/flipperdevices/flipperzero-firmware/relea...
or more details here:
https://github.com/flipperdevices/flipperzero-firmware/compa...
This is just the official repo for the stock firmware. Last update 3 weeks ago for 1.0.1.
I feel like every time this device shows up I need to yell from the rooftops how dangerous(and illegal) some of the wifi and Bluetooth attacks can be. Even if it's totally baffling WHY any safety critical devices including industrial cranes and pacemakers have consumer radios in them, that doesn't make you less responsible when you crash tons of metal into someones skull or stop someone's heart.
Cool device, and I'm not saying it should be illegal or anything, but I've met people who have zero clue with these devices and it's a bit scary.
Which pacemakers rely on ISM band communications to work?
Not doubting you (M in ISM stands for Medical, after all), just curious how it works to get from messing around on 2.4GHz to someone's ticker stopping.
Given how much of a soup ISM is already I don't know if I'd want someone's ancient cordless phone, stupid "hacker" toy, or my microwave stopping my heart.
What is a consumer radio? Radios follow the laws of physics.
Yeah but less scary than a teenager driving a car.
If that is true (and I’m from the US); I remind myself about how if there are just 50,000 trained agents in that haystack of 2M+ illegal crossings every year from a country that hates us (edit: to clarify, China, North Korea, Russia through Mexico) we could be so screwed. 500 agents for each of the top 100 cities, with tools that make Flipper look like a toy.
It is certainly possible for a small group to cause disproportionate harm. Physical access is a powerful tool.
Then again, what is worse than a small group who hates? A large group who doesn't care.
> 2M+ illegal crossings every year from a country that hates us
Huh? Since when does Mexico hate America? Many Mexicans like visiting America for shopping and sightseeing, which is why over 2.3M were issued visitor visas in 2023 alone. Mexicans living in American tend to be very hardworking and friendly. Also, I thought most of the people crossing illegally are originally coming from points south of Mexico?
>> Since when does Mexico hate America?
Most of the people coming here illegally now are not from Mexico. Some of the last ICE numbers I saw, border patrol had over 150 countries represented and none of them were Mexico. It is true that Mexican cartels who employ Coyotes do account for the majority of the trafficking since they control all the major routes into this country. All of these illegals are violating the Safe Country asylum rule and the majority of people who are seen for asylum cases are rejected and deported anyways.
>> Mexicans living in American tend to be very hardworking and friendly.
They also remit billions back to Mexico which never make into our economy:
Mexicans living and working abroad sent $63.31 billion home last year, a 7.6% increase compared to 2022. Remittances out of Mexico increased 19.5% last year to total $1.05 billion, or just 1.7% of the incoming amount.
Most of the incoming money — 99% of which was wired electronically in transfers that averaged $393 per transaction — came from the United States, where millions of Mexicans live.
https://mexiconewsdaily.com/business/mexicans-sent-us-63b-ho...
Either they corrected their comment or you misread, but they said THROUGH Mexico
No, there’s another 2M illegal entries per year in addition to the 2M+ authorized crossings.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wt91pxCd0qA&pp=ygUZc3RldmUgYmF...
So seems like America is very popular and there isn't some universal hate in Mexico.
You aren’t very creative. I’m talking about if China, or North Korea, did smuggling as part of the masses deliberately through Mexico.
The responsibility remains squarely with the people who developed these devices and the people who give it FCC approval.
Devices shouldn’t malfunction and handle interference gracefully. It is an FCC certification requirement and that requirement includes any interference.
I don’t think that is either legally, or morally, true.
Sure, it would be better if devices weren’t broken by attack attempts, but if you are purposefully trying to attack something, you are to blame for your attack succeeding?
>if you are purposefully trying to attack something, you are to blame for your attack succeeding?
Yes?
It is by definition an attack, a hostile action, something that should not be done.
Is it wise to harden systems to withstand attacks? Of course.
But when an attack works you don't victim blame. You use knowledge of how it worked to harden your systems better.
Except this isn't anything special.
Literally anyone can do this with an MCU of some type and a 50 cent device. Bluetooth, RF, NFC, etc. This just makes is a nice little convenient package.
There is victim blaming and there is practicality.
A pacemaker that can't withstand random radio bursts is useless, as the first time you walk down the street you are dead.
So unless you are going to ban any sort of microcontroller, and very well documented and simple circuit designs, this is still not victim blaming.
These devices do have FCC approval. It is why I can't send a garage door opener signal from my Flipper on the 315MHz band, because in the US, that isn't spectrum allocated to my fucking-about. I get a little message when I click send that says so.
All devices can be modified after the fact. Whether a manufacturer makes it easy, in the case of Flipper Zero, or hard, in the case of many other devices, to modify and install custom firmware that breaks FCC approvals, that lets it broadcast in frequencies it was not approved for, and allow the user to attack certain systems, is not really the manufacturers problem, anymore than Apple selling me a laptop I write malicious code on is Apple's fault, or the manufacturer of an IR blaster being responsible for me using it to mess with the TVs at the sports bar, or the Raspberry Pi Foundation for creating a device with a WiFi chipset that can be used to run deauth attacks, or the generic FM transmitter I could hardware hack to interfere with all sorts of stuff, or the RTL-SDR...or the ad infinitum
A device may be required to not malfunction due to interference, but it can't be required to function in the presence of interference because that's a technical impossibility if the interference is strong enough to overpower the intended signal. That's why there are laws which say that if you use something like the Flipper as an RF jammer (which is possible with custom firmware) then angry feds might show up at your house.
For medical devices, lack of function would be malfunction