7 comments

  • solarkraft 14 hours ago ago

    Ugh, my heart. At first I thought it’d be open to the public.

    Maybe some day …

  • 7373737373 a day ago ago

    With which rockets does the EU intend to set up the colony?

    • seabass-labrax a day ago ago

      The research facility in the article is operated by the ESA and the DLR (the German space agency), not the European Union. The member states overlap but are nonetheless different; the UK is a member of the ESA but not the EU, for instance. That said, the EU and the ESA do work together on some things[1].

      As for future lunar missions, the ESA doesn't yet have any one rocket powerful enough to facilitate a manned mission to the Moon. The third stage of NASA's Saturn V had a mass of about 90 tonnes in Earth orbit prior to going to the Moon[2]; the ESA's most powerful rocket, Ariane 64, can only lift about 20 tonnes into orbit[3]. A modern lunar lander could be much lighter than the Apollo-era equipment was, but this would be a relatively minor factor compared to the mass of the fuel. The ESA could of course launch a mission to the Moon with four or five Ariane 64 rockets, assembling the full lunar spacecraft in Earth orbit.

      [1]: https://www.esa.int/About_Us/Corporate_news/ESA_and_the_EU

      [2]: http://www.braeunig.us/space/specs/saturn.htm

      [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_6

      • graemep 17 hours ago ago

        This is the problem with using "Europe" as anything other than a geographical term.

        There is the EU, the Council of Europe (both of which use the same flag BTW), the EEA, the ESA....

        Its very sloppy - its worse than calling the UK "England", although maybe not as bad as referring to the UK as "London" (yes, I have come across people who do that).

    • edm0nd a day ago ago

      >European astronauts will train inside the unique simulator and test equipment that will one day travel to the Moon -- including potentially on NASA's upcoming Artemis programme, which plans to send humans there on a mission in a few years.

    • T-A 19 hours ago ago
    • creer 12 hours ago ago

      Why do you feel the EU couldn't buy flights on SpaceX rockets is they wanted to?